When will this shit end?

[Fuzzy Afro]

14 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

I have a friend who works at a local doctors surgery.  She was vaccinated last week due to a 'no-show'.  Word has gone round and although there's not yet queues outside the surgery phone is red hot with enquiries about getting jabbed on the 'off-chance'.

Mate of mine was getting surgery the other day and (I shit you not) they said “tell us you’re an NHS worker and we will vaccinate you, no questions asked” 

[zahidf]

8 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Mate of mine was getting surgery the other day and (I shit you not) they said “tell us you’re an NHS worker and we will vaccinate you, no questions asked” 

 

Given some of the stuff you've said on here, not massively convincing

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, Chapple12345 said:

No one is expecting everyone in that group to be instantly vaccinated when using Pfizer due to how hard it is to store, once Oxford is signed off we will really have the ball rolling as it can be stored and distributed far more easily and the benchmark will be easier to get 

Plus, at least for the first couple of weeks, we're seeing genuine exponential growth in vaccinations. Take that COVID!

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

29 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Sure that won't last. He's so used to complaining about Europe he won't be able to stop now. 

Give it a few years and he will want us out of this deal... Or have someone else in his sights. Maybe the WHO blame them for Covid or something. 

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, Dark Star said:

Yep, and the cynic in me wonders if the reason they aren't (currently) including anyone under 50 in the vaccination list (unless underlying health issues) is because they know these people will want to travel and therefore will be happy to pay the likes of Boots £128 for a Covid Test in order to be free travel anywhere. Money they can't make if everyone gets a vaccine. 

At the same time, have heard some rumours of vaccination centres doling out any spare vaccines left at the end of the day to anyone passing by, but that doesn't sound right?

That's daft.

[zero000]

1 hour ago, st dan said:

I do find this very odd, on the same day we are expecting there to be more patients in hospitals with Covid than at any point during the pandemic. Something just isn’t adding up. 

In my area they’ve shut down the nightingale type hospital, but built a massive prefab on the existing hospital grounds to expand the capacity. 
 

I'd take anything Richard Tice claims with a massive pinch of salt. He’s trying to shoe horn this into his anti lockdown narrative. 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

1 hour ago, st dan said:

I do find this very odd, on the same day we are expecting there to be more patients in hospitals with Covid than at any point during the pandemic. Something just isn’t adding up. 

I wonder if the equipment that was in there has been given to pre existing hospitals to convert normal wards into ICU wards?

[Leyrulion]

On vaccination my expectations were wildly out. I'd thought that because the government were saying the first vaccination batch was 800,000 that we'd have used that as a starting point. 

I thought they'd be operating much closer to supply limits then it seems they are. They said 4 million doses would be in the country by the end of the year and (on no evidence) I'd assumed we'd be making big dents of the millions into that figure by December 31st. 

Hard not to be disappointed by 500k doses when my expectations were so high.

But I don't know how successful the current scheme is, will certainly hope for a fast increase in numbers!

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

On vaccination my expectations were wildly out. I'd thought that because the government were saying the first vaccination batch was 800,000 that we'd have used that as a starting point. 

I thought they'd be operating much closer to supply limits then it seems they are. They said 4 million doses would be in the country by the end of the year and (on no evidence) I'd assumed we'd be making big dents of the millions into that figure by December 31st. 

Hard not to be disappointed by 500k doses when my expectations were so high.

But I don't know how successful the current scheme is, will certainly hope for a fast increase in numbers!

Its 611k for the whole UK by last Sunday as per a tweet a few pages. I expect it to hit over a million by next Sunday.

Its not really slipping I dont think. But the Oxford agreement is the one which will be main step forward.

[Ryan1984]

46 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

even Farage is happy with it...

 

‘War’? What a pathetic, puny man.

I received my new ‘blue’ passport today. It looks black to my eyes.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Interesting (albeit sobering thread):

 

[Jack.194]

2 hours ago, DeanoL said:

Not suggesting taking six weeks away, just moving them from summer to now. Won’t go down well I’m sure, but y’know global pandemic.

And while the argument that kids education is more important than stopping people dying holds some water, I am struggling with the idea that teachers’ summer holidays are more important than stopping people dying. Happy to hear the argument though!

No I agree, I think that my reply was posted with displaced anger - I just think teachers are viewed so poorly by the government and the general public. I work with medically vulnerable children and have been given no PPE by anyone, and the mood I get from the public is that we spent the whole of the lockdown doing nothing (rather than checking in on families and providing online learning), just gets a little frustrating.
 

I do however think it would be overly disruptive for the kids to move the six week holidays that drastically, for not enough benefit - but then I’m not a scientist so what do I know.

I’m kind of on the fence about it all to be honest. On one hand I think kids are pushed enough as it is, and 6 weeks of online learning really won’t do much to harm their future prospects and education (if it’s managed properly), but also you have the issue of safeguarding, and kids living in poverty etc having to be at home for 6 weeks at a time when families are struggling a lot. After all school is about much more than education.

[Ryan1984]

 

[Mr.Tease]

2 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

 

Ha, I was just about to post that thread. When will this shit end? Not whist we have such shockingly bad/ corrupt/ inept 'journalism' unfortunately.

We're caught between the far right pumping out rubbish on the Internet to gullable parents and grandparents 24/7, a very right wing print press that pumps out pro government /billionaire propaganda, a pundit class made up entirely of the right, centre right and centrists and useless TV news that editorialises in return for access and future job opportunities for the tory party. 

[Mr.Tease]

He's been rightly calling out this rubbish theatre for weeks/months

[zahidf]

3 hours ago, st dan said:

I do find this very odd, on the same day we are expecting there to be more patients in hospitals with Covid than at any point during the pandemic. Something just isn’t adding up. 

This is the Brexit nutter. Take with an extreme pinch of salt

 

[BobWillis]

Just now, zahidf said:

This is the Brexit nutter. Take with an extreme pinch of salt

 

So are you saying the nightingale hospital in London is still open? 

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, BobWillis said:

So are you saying the nightingale hospital in London is still open? 

I'm saying he's a brexit party nutter who specialises in fake news.

[BobWillis]

14 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I'm saying he's a brexit party nutter who specialises in fake news.

Which part of the news is fake though? Is the hospital open or not? 

[Crazyfool01]

All agreed then ....

[dotdash79]

Although it’s Peston so it could be total bullshit, he should have stuck with economics.  

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, dotdash79 said:

Although it’s Peston so it could be total bullshit, he should have stuck with economics.  

sky reporting too ... and bbc 

[xxialac]

Yeah, von der Leyen and Barnier are doing a press conference in a minute or two to announce it.

[steviewevie]

Looks like it's done...and from what I've seen looks like kind of a win-win in that both sides can claim they got most of what they wanted. In my opinion it's not as good as being in EU, but remain lost in that referendum and that's it. For me it was never about the economic benefits anyway, it was something else...being part of europe, but I guess many don't feel the same way. I think it's sad. Now got to watch Johnson and the brexiters gloat. Time for a beer maybe.

[xxialac]

here we go...

https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/ebs/live/1