2019 Headliners

[Hugh Jass]

Just now, Username taken said:

Yep. If you're going to engage a crowd of that size you need to throw the kitchen sink at it.  Live band, gospel singers - the works.

Standing on a massive stage like that with your mate over in the corner on his iPod is unlikely to draw the audience in

I didn't watch him, but I was walking across the back of the Pyramid field making my way from the moody Blues to Suede and I had to stop for a second and admire the balls on him on stage on his own under a huge lighting rig.

[Winslow Leach]

10 minutes ago, Username taken said:

Yep. If you're going to engage a crowd of that size you need to throw the kitchen sink at it.  Live band, gospel singers - the works.

Standing on a massive stage like that with your mate over in the corner on his iPod is unlikely to draw the audience in

*The Spicy Take Haver has logged on*

I thought Kanye's stage setup worked very well and I'm glad he didn't make loads of concessions to Real Music™️isms. 

[The Martini Police]

32 minutes ago, DJL said:

Yeah I can’t stand Kanye and have actively avoided details about/have no interest in Kim... so I wasn’t on that stage that night.

Anyone that was there out of anger is clearly ridiculous, whether there reasoning was not, partially or entirely race related. I fear most of it would have been the latter.

 

It is indeed ridiculous behaviour for anyone to attend a set out of anger or to bring someone down but I don't think these suggestions that it's pure racism are reasonable. Whilst there might have been people being racist (didn't see it myself, crowd near me was fine) but seems much more likely to me that's it's because a lot of people, if not most, think he's an arrogant knobhead and wanted him to fail because of that. I think the obvious explanation that the flag was made to distract him and annoy him is more likely that it being racist, but it's still abhorrent and quite pathetic behaviour for non-racist reasons.

[Divein]

1 hour ago, TheNoise said:

Probably because their wives wouldn't put themselves in the same position(s) as Kim K.

I'm not condoning the crowd's behaviour in any way, shape or form,  but it's like he almost invites it. Can you imagine if Maga hats were about then and he turned up wearing one ? He's got more than a few screws loose, he seems like an arsehole and he's married to a media whore.

I have zero respect for him and it's nothing to do with his music, I detest Stormzy's music as much but I have respect for him.

A few points I would like you to clear up

Can you clarify what you mean by ‘brings it on himself’? 

Why would his very clear mental health issues make him an ‘arsehole’?

Why did you choose to use Stormzy as an example and not any other band you don’t like? 

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, The Martini Police said:

It is indeed ridiculous behaviour for anyone to attend a set out of anger or to bring someone down but I don't think these suggestions that it's pure racism are reasonable. Whilst there might have been people being racist (didn't see it myself, crowd near me was fine) but seems much more likely to me that's it's because a lot of people, if not most, think he's an arrogant knobhead and wanted him to fail because of that. I think the obvious explanation that the flag was made to distract him and annoy him is more likely that it being racist, but it's still abhorrent and quite pathetic behaviour for non-racist reasons.

FWIW I wasn't suggesting that the flag was racist, more what he does is likely to offend the "real music" brigade, who, rather than just go and watch something else like a rational human being, would prefer to just act like twats.

[Hugh Jass]

I bet Lonsdale thought that flag was top bantz.

[TiZuff]

16 minutes ago, The Martini Police said:

It is indeed ridiculous behaviour for anyone to attend a set out of anger or to bring someone down but I don't think these suggestions that it's pure racism are reasonable. Whilst there might have been people being racist (didn't see it myself, crowd near me was fine) but seems much more likely to me that's it's because a lot of people, if not most, think he's an arrogant knobhead and wanted him to fail because of that. I think the obvious explanation that the flag was made to distract him and annoy him is more likely that it being racist, but it's still abhorrent and quite pathetic behaviour for non-racist reasons.

But Liam Gallagher gets a free pass?? ??

[Matt42]

No one has topped that moment where Kanye flew over my head on a crane. NO ONE.

That moment where we thought he packed it in then we saw him elevated over the crowd. Fans around me going nuts. Fantastic stuff. That’s how you headline a festival!

yes he’s got a screw loose, yes he needs help, yes he is surrounded by bad influences and yes men. But when Kanye wants to be he knows how to perform and create like no other.

Edited February 12, 2019 by Matt42

[TheFieryFurnace18]

If catfish get number 1 with their new album, headline TRNSMT and sell out their tour what do people think of their chances to headline Glasto on this album cycle?

[TheFieryFurnace18]

If catfish get number 1 with their new album, headline TRNSMT and sell out their tour what do people think of their chances to headline Glasto on this album cycle?

[gherkin8r]

Can someone with mental health issues not be an arse hole as well? 

[Badlands]

Me: Killers are a lazy booking, Eavii need to be taking more risks and booking more upcoming acts.

Also Me: CATFISH AND THE F*CKING BOTTLEMEN?

[Superunknown]

3 minutes ago, gherkin8r said:

Can someone with mental health issues not be an arse hole as well? 

This ain't it chief.

[gherkin8r]

6 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

This ain't it chief.

Confused

[Guest]

1 hour ago, The Martini Police said:

It is indeed ridiculous behaviour for anyone to attend a set out of anger or to bring someone down but I don't think these suggestions that it's pure racism are reasonable. Whilst there might have been people being racist (didn't see it myself, crowd near me was fine) but seems much more likely to me that's it's because a lot of people, if not most, think he's an arrogant knobhead and wanted him to fail because of that. I think the obvious explanation that the flag was made to distract him and annoy him is more likely that it being racist, but it's still abhorrent and quite pathetic behaviour for non-racist reasons.

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Pete Townshend's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

Edited February 12, 2019 by GETOFFAMYLAWN
Pete not Roger

[Hugh Jass]

16 minutes ago, TheFieryFurnace18 said:

If catfish get number 1 with their new album, headline TRNSMT and sell out their tour what do people think of their chances to headline Glasto on this album cycle?

I think they are non-existent. Mercifully.

[JoeyT]

3 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

The Who for the child porn on Roger's hard drive

That was Pete Townshend mate not Roger D.

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Roger's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

I agree. There’s way more to racism than direct discrimination. Indirect discrimination occurs in more ways than we think and the only thing we can do is own up to it and try and be better.

It is always black artists and women that receive this sort of criticism. So there is clearly an indirect issue that needs to be addressed and realised. 

[jyoung]

2 hours ago, TheNoise said:

He's got more than a few screws loose, he seems like an arsehole and he's married to a media whore.

Plot twist... You're the arse hole in this case, pal.

[Guest]

The moment Kanye took to that stage was sheer brilliance. So many wanting him to fail, so many wanting him to be "replaced with a rock band", he didn't give those bastards a single inch. Completely empty stage with one lone rapper stood there, he lit the entire fucker up so you could see it was just him, and started belting out "That that don't kill me can only make me stronger".

Stone cold killer.

[bigfurbdogg]

6 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Roger's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

The Raheem Sterling effect

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

That was Pete Townshend mate not Roger D.

My apologies. Should never had doubted Roger, a branch of my family are Daultreys, very respectable and un-noncey people.

[Gnomicide]

3 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

My apologies. Should never had doubted Roger, a branch of my family are Daultreys, very respectable and un-noncey people.

He's a Brexit loving knob head though.

[Guest]

Just now, Gnomicide said:

He's a Brexit loving knob head though.

A rich boomer? Quelle surprise!

[TiZuff]

45 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

The moment Kanye took to that stage was sheer brilliance. So many wanting him to fail, so many wanting him to be "replaced with a rock band", he didn't give those bastards a single inch. Completely empty stage with one lone rapper stood there, he lit the entire fucker up so you could see it was just him, and started belting out "That that don't kill me can only make me stronger".

Stone cold killer.

Such a great moment !