2019 Headliners

[ConorC]

3 minutes ago, eastynh said:

 They don't want to diversify the crowd. They have it nice and cosy as it is. They will pay lip service to it and stick on the odd token act but they don't want a crowd like Parklife.

The 3 headliners could be Wiley/Skepta/Stormzy and it's still highly doubtful they'd attract the parklife clientele.

Most people I know attend it because it's local and relatively cheap. Glastonbury is neither.

One slightly different headliner isn't that much to ask for. Even Ed Sheeran/Adele were slightly off-lonsdale.

I actually don't mind any of AM/Cure/PM individually but all 3 is a bit overkill.

[Mardy]

I really really like the new AM album, and the first was good, everything inbetween is a bit lukewarm, but I have absolutely no desire to go and see them live.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Having never been to Parklife I'm not really sure what the crowd's like, but I'm honestly not so sure about the festival wanting to remain cosy.  Does Parklife have anything like NYC Downlow or The Greenhouse?

 

No but the crowd is far more culturally diverse than Glasto. This is not the thread  for such a discussion so I will leave it there regarding the diversity issue. I just found it a bit funny people having a whinge about the colour of the headline performing artists (like that should really be an issue in the 21st century anyway) when 95% of the people who attend the festival are the same colour.

It should not matter what colour, sexuality or sex any headliner is. They should be there only for their artistic merit.

[Alex DeLarge]

I think it's a bit weird that if the info is correct:

Muse, Coldplay, Adele, Radiohead, Foo Fighters, Ed Sheeran, Paul McCartney, The Cure, Arctic Monkeys.

Only one of the past 9 headliners isn't a white bloke with a guitar (or a group of white blokes with guitars).

Edited September 24, 2018 by Alex DeLarge

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, eastynh said:

It should not matter what colour, sexuality or sex any headliner is. They should be there only for their artistic merit.

In which case the Arctic Monkeys need not apply 

[Superunknown]

1 minute ago, eastynh said:

No but the crowd is far more culturally diverse than Glasto. This is not the thread  for such a discussion so I will leave it there regarding the diversity issue. I just found it a bit funny people having a whinge about the colour of the headline performing artists (like that should really be an issue in the 21st century anyway) when 95% of the people who attend the festival are the same colour.

It should not matter what colour, sexuality or sex any headliner is. They should be there only for their artistic merit.

Should be. But Coldplay have headlined 3 times. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

It's not just about colour, it's about genre, old guard vs up-and-coming acts and gender too.

[dentalplan]

Shame that Emily is gonna be bombarded by complaints that The Cure and Arctic Monkeys were both crap last time and that Paul can’t sing anymore. And that’s just from her dad.

[CaledonianGonzo]

2 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It's not just about colour, it's about genre, old guard vs up-and-coming acts and gender too.

Well, yeah. Theres definitely more than one flavour of diversity.

[Hugh Jass]

19 minutes ago, eastynh said:

They don't want to diversify the crowd. They have it nice and cosy as it is. They will pay lip service to it and stick on the odd token act but they don't want a crowd like Parklife.

Where’s Russy when you need him?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said:

I think it's a bit weird that if the info is correct:

Muse, Coldplay, Adele, Radiohead, Foo Fighters, Ed Sheeran, Paul McCartney, The Cure, Arctic Monkeys.

Only one of the past 9 headliners isn't a white bloke with a guitar (or a group of white blokes with guitars).

And the festival sells out immediately every time, generally there is hardly any trouble, the vast majority enjoy themselves and want to come back. Why would they change a winning formula? 

Whether we like it or not, beige and white guitar bands headlining Glastonbury works for them.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Perhaps because certain sections of society feel that it's not really somewhere where they'd feel welcome and the festival wants to remedy that?

[dentalplan]

Is this the first time it’s been three repeats? That’s what I like least about this prospective trio tbh. Adding Madonna or Fleetwood Mac isn’t gonna flip the clientele,  neither is Stormzy or The 1975. If Kylie plays Sunday then that’s gonna be a bigger thing than some of these headliners so that’s something at least.

Don’t really think that will be the three headliners personally. Almost every time we have felt like we had the picture this early on, it’s been somewhat different.

[dentalplan]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Perhaps because certain sections of society feel that it's not really somewhere where they'd feel welcome and the festival wants to remedy that?

Changing the lineup won’t mean nowt if it’s £250+ to get in and £60+ to get there.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Perhaps because certain sections of society feel that it's not really somewhere where they'd feel welcome and the festival wants to remedy that?

Well they should make sure a certain percentage of tickets go to certain sections of society if that's how they feel. They should also cater more for their tastes. Only Glastonbury can resolve the issue of lack of diversity in regards to the festival.

[Winslow Leach]

21 minutes ago, eastynh said:

It should not matter what colour, sexuality or sex any headliner is. They should be there only for their artistic merit.

The guy who created Bojack Horseman said a pretty rueful thing in a recent interview, that he'd fallen out of love with the argument 'I don't see colour, I hire the best people for the job' when he realised that his picks for 'the best person for the job' were all white. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Well, as I said, the line up is just one tactic. It's not the only thing to look at.

[incident]

8 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Is this the first time it’s been three repeats?

It would be.

But lets be honest here, how many of the current attendees were around last time McCartney played - let alone The Cure? It's a total guess but I'd be surprised if the numbers were above 10% and 5% respectively.

[Mash011]

36 minutes ago, eastynh said:

They don't want to diversify the crowd. They have it nice and cosy as it is. They will pay lip service to it and stick on the odd token act but they don't want a crowd like Parklife.

Er... Are you trying to say what I think you are with that Parklife comment? Major fucking yikes. 

[karaseen]

36 minutes ago, henry bear said:

I wouldn’t dismiss Fleetwood Mac as a potential just yet - they’ll be touring Europe around the time.

Without Lindsey Buckingham.  Maybe that will make them affordable!

[dentalplan]

Just now, incident said:

It would be.

But lets be honest here, how many of the current attendees were around last time McCartney played - let alone The Cure? It's a total guess but I'd be surprised if the numbers were above 10% and 5% respectively.

Oh yeah I don’t mean that we’ve all already seen them - I’ve only seen one and won’t be making the mistake again.

I just mean a first-time Glasto headline slot is special for the artist and special for the fans to see. Watching a set that will be immediately contrast against previous sets closer to the artists’ prime obviously isn’t.

[strummer77]

8 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Oh yeah I don’t mean that we’ve all already seen them - I’ve only seen one and won’t be making the mistake again.

I just mean a first-time Glasto headline slot is special for the artist and special for the fans to see. Watching a set that will be immediately contrast against previous sets closer to the artists’ prime obviously isn’t.

Is that a given though? Blur in 2009 seems to be many people's favourite ever and wasn't their first. 

[billum]

15 minutes ago, karaseen said:

Without Lindsey Buckingham.  Maybe that will make them affordable!

Though they've replaced him with two musicians (Mike Campbell & Neil Finn), so the overall bill could remain the same...

[DownboundTrain52]

I'm all for handing a headline slot to someone who has never topped the bill before, but at the same time, I'm not going to knock it if they pick three artists who've headlined before, with two of them removed from their prior slots by a decade and a half.

I was nine when Macca headlined in 04 and don't think I even knew what a music festival was back then, let alone Glastonbury.

On that point too, how many "proper" shows have Paul McCartney and The Cure done in the UK since 2004? Take away the intimate one-offs and charity gigs, and I'd wager it's rather small. I think there's still an element of rarity to booking them, even if they are both former headliners.

[Gucci Piggy]

29 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Well they should make sure a certain percentage of tickets go to certain sections of society if that's how they feel. They should also cater more for their tastes. Only Glastonbury can resolve the issue of lack of diversity in regards to the festival.

That's literally what we're all saying they should do. Then you replied saying 95% of the audience are white and they don't want to change it so we shouldn't be complaining about it.