AC/DC Says Lars

[Wooderson]

If FF headline Friday and AC/DC on Saturday, then Taylor Swift on Sunday, I'll have the opposite experience of this year when Fri/Sat were musts but Kasabian weren't even on the radar.

Liza on the bandstand.

[Superscally]

In 2008 KoL were not a populist choice. They weren't the band they later went on to become. A big part of their success was getting that leg up at Glastonbury. At their peak, The Verve were a bigger band than KoL were in 2008. They had recently reformed and for the average Joe in the street had more sing along tunes than the other 2 headliners combined.

If you think the locals would've preferred The Stones to Mumford in 2011 then you're deluded - as that was 2013, not 2011! In 2011 it was U2, Coldplay and Beyonce and Beyonce is the most poppy act of the 3. 2013 was Arctic Monkeys, Stones and Mumford and while The Stones are undoubtedly the biggest act, and therefore got a coveted Saturday night slot, Mumford were writing songs that were getting into the pop charts (not that I personally think they should've headlined anyway).

I didn't mention "legends" headlining on Saturday, maybe take that up with someone who did, but I think the festival see that as their biggest headline slot. But since 2005 there is a pattern of the feel good sign along act of the weekend being on a Sunday - the exception probably being last year which was full off bump ups anyway.

Firstly, KoL were the most talked about band in the world in 2008. The Verve were a stange choice and talked about as such. I was there, I should know. They were also never as big as KoL were at their peak apart from in the mind of their hardcore fans.

Well done, you spotted a typo, re: 2011/2013. Hardly a good argument. Bet you chuckled away to yourself over that. Sloppy, but not deluded.

I didn't say you implied that about Saturday - can you see where I said I did? People talk about patterns and this is one of them that simply isn't true. 4 out of 10 in the last 10 yesrs the biggest act has been on the Friday or Sunday. In terms of record sales and ability to sell out a tour, the Foos are probably bigger than ACDC currently, who struggled to sell out a number of shows on their last tour, regardless of how big grossing the Black Ice tor was.

The fact that you refer to the Sunday act being the most "pop" is a bit of an insult to the musical taste and intelligence of the locals. Yes, I know pop is short for popular in terms of etymology, but it doesn't stand for that any more. It is now just bland radio filler that you're forced to like by Radio 1 et al. and doesn't necessarily mean that it would be the preferred choice of a general music listening populace. I bet a ton of cash that Foo Fighters would win out over Taylor Swift and ACDC certainly would do.There may be the drive to have a populist choice on the Sunday, but that is a completely different kettle of fish to a "poppy" act. As such the "pattern" is not one of genre, but size.

The biggest factor as Neil said is the band and trust me, ACDC will only play the day that they want to, not the day they're asked to play. If they match, everyone's happy, if they don't DC won't be there. If the festival does indeed have the desire to have the big boys on the Saturday then of course, that could lead to a slight skewing, but it will come down to the bands, as after all, Glastonbury has little leverage when it comes to dictating terms as they pay sod all.

[FuzzyDunlop]

Only ACDC interest me out of the possibles so far

[The Placid Casual]

Only ACDC interest me out of the possibles so far

Aye, same. It'd be a huge booking that's for sure

LET THERE BE ROCK

[CaledonianGonzo]

I'm surprised that we've come this far and that they're still in the running. It's all to play for. Fingers crossed.

[FloorFiller]

if the initial reports were true about Eavis speaking to Mensch during Metallica then surely that band is AC/DC (especially with Muse now out of the running). it all adds up really, and their little ambiguous interview on 6music is overly familiar. i think i said like a page ago that i didn't think it was them, but after having a think about it, it'd be quite a surprise if it isn't them. would be quite a coupe, especially finding a way around their stage demands

Edited December 2, 2014 by FloorFiller

[CaledonianGonzo]

It'll be taps aff for the next six months if this arrives as an early Christmas present.

[ghostdancer1]

if the initial reports were true about Eavis speaking to Mensch during Metallica then surely that band is AC/DC (especially with Muse now out of the running). it all adds up really, and their little ambiguous interview on 6music is overly familiar. i think i said like a page ago that i didn't think it was them, but after having a think about it, it'd be quite a surprise if it isn't them. would be quite a coupe, especially finding a way around their stage demands

plus the "he's english but the band aren't" quote

[FloorFiller]

plus the "he's english but the band aren't" quote

exactly. it's gotta be them, hasn't it? having a think about it i don't know why we haven't been incredibly confident in this happening for a while as all the clues have been there *

* don't hold me to this if it isn't them and we get Florence instead

[Guest]

You know what? I'd fucking love to have the world's biggest, silliest rock n roll band on the Pyramid, bring it on!

[dentalplan]

if the initial reports were true about Eavis speaking to Mensch during Metallica then surely that band is AC/DC (especially with Muse now out of the running). it all adds up really, and their little ambiguous interview on 6music is overly familiar. i think i said like a page ago that i didn't think it was them, but after having a think about it, it'd be quite a surprise if it isn't them. would be quite a coupe, especially finding a way around their stage demands

He's not their manager anymore so it doesn't quite all add up. There's a fair bit to suggest it now (and some to suggest against it) but I wouldn't count that.

Come to think of it, Elton was booked for Bestival 2013 while taking a tour of Bestival 2012; maybe that's how he does things and popped round to see Eavis during Metallica. I think I saw him in the gathering behind Metallica actually.

[Bisque]

Elton John was watching Metallica???

[FloorFiller]

He's not their manager anymore so it doesn't quite all add up. There's a fair bit to suggest it now (and some to suggest against it) but I wouldn't count that.

ah i didn't know that, i've just been going off what others have said! still reckon they look likely though. what suggests it may not be them?

[CaledonianGonzo]

He's not their manager anymore so it doesn't quite all add up. There's a fair bit to suggest it now (and some to suggest against it) but I wouldn't count that.

The suggestion was that he was managing them *again*.

Though I don't think that's either been confirmed or denied anywhere valid.

[kalifire]

exactly. it's gotta be them, hasn't it?

Except 'because Michael said so' is sadly one of the worst foundations for believing anything regarding headliners.

Also, didn't Emily say all the rumours are wrong, and AC/DC are heavily rumoured?

I don't reckon they've booked anyone yet and probably won't until quite near the announcement.

Edited December 2, 2014 by kalifire

[dentalplan]

ah i didn't know that, i've just been going off what others have said! still reckon they look likely though. what suggests it may not be them?

I mean when it's been said they're doing a show incompatible with festivals, however they could just leave that so I don't know.

The suggestion was that he was managing them *again*.

Though I don't think that's either been confirmed or denied anywhere valid.

They're not on the management's roster on the website and it's been updated since people started saying he's managing them again so unless he's keeping it on the down low then I don't know why he would be. It should be easy to find out who actually does manage them but Google just seems to throw up stories about legendary ex-managers.

[FloorFiller]

Except 'because Michael said so' is sadly one of the worst foundations for believing anything regarding headliners.

Also, didn't Emily say all the rumours are wrong, and AC/DC are heavily rumoured?

I don't reckon they've booked anyone yet and probably won't until quite near the announcement.

ALL of the rumours can't be wrong. she no-no'd Foos and Fleetwood Mac being the Saturday headliners, but that's about it (and we now know Fleetwood are at IOW, and Foos could headline the other two days - which makes sense as AC/DC would make the most sense as the Saturday headliner

[FloorFiller]

They're not on the management's roster on the website and it's been updated since people started saying he's managing them again so unless he's keeping it on the down low then I don't know why he would be. It should be easy to find out who actually does manage them but Google just seems to throw up stories about legendary ex-managers.

the only answer i could find was from answers.com where somebody asked 'who is acdc manager' and somebody replied Peter Mensch. maybe he is still their manager, but as you say, i don't see why it'd be kept a secret

[Gnomicide]

[willutalk]

AC/DC would be absolutely nuts. Could see them pulling a ridiculously massive crowd of people just wanting to rock Worthy Farm for an evening. Sounds potentially epic.

Not convinced though by the rumours though considering how hard it was for DL to suit them into place.

It's one of those I won't believe it until it's announced.

But seems promising.

Edited December 2, 2014 by willutalk

[Sawdusty surfer]

Done my time at The Farm. Don't often get down to The Pyramid. Would be all over it if ACDC played. They would be absolute dynamite.

[ltfckimbo]

Firstly, KoL were the most talked about band in the world in 2008.

They may have been talked about by music press, but they never really entered the wider public consciousness until Sex on Fire. Certainly not to the extent Beyonce and Mumford had when they headlined.

[Bisque]

They would be absolute dynamite.

I agree. Do you mind me asking are you the guy that used to take a huge truck as a camper with shed loads of booze a long time ago?

[michael eavis' beard]

Firstly, KoL were the most talked about band in the world in 2008. The Verve were a stange choice and talked about as such. I was there, I should know. They were also never as big as KoL were at their peak apart from in the mind of their hardcore fans.

At the time of Glastonbury 2008: KoL had released 3 albums and each are currently double platinum in UK. Verve's Urban Hymns is 10 times platinum. KoL's peak came after Glastonbury 2008 with the release of "Only by the Night". Yes, KoL were much talked about in 2008 (although probably not in the world! Seem to remember Jay-Z get a fair few column inches that year?!) but that doesn't mean that they were as well known to the general public. I guarantee you that in 2008 more people could have named a Verve song than named a KoL song. I should know, I was there too! Oh, and I ain't a hardcore fan.

I didn't say you implied that about Saturday - can you see where I said I did?

Sure....

The "pattern" that the legend plays the Saturday night is also not true.

4 out of 10 in the last 10 yesrs the biggest act has been on the Friday or Sunday.

So 6 out of 10 times the biggest act has been on the Saturday then?!

I know pop is short for popular in terms of etymology, but it doesn't stand for that any more. It is now just bland radio filler that you're forced to like by Radio 1 et al. and doesn't necessarily mean that it would be the preferred choice of a general music listening populace. I bet a ton of cash that Foo Fighters would win out over Taylor Swift

You probably haven't been on the Taylor Swift thread then?! The woman's sold over 100 million records in the last 8 years!. She's "pop" in ever sense of the word! Personal preferences aside, she is the queen of the "general music listening populace". Probably best to keep your cash in your pocket!

trust me

Nah, you're alright.

[Superscally]

Nah, you're alright.

You're not.

1) KoL v Verve in 08. Both were talked about as weird headliners. KoL as they'd only just graduated to that state, Verve becuase no-one was really that fussed they'd reformed or probably weren't even aware they'd been away as (as much as I love em), to the general public they were a one album band. KoL were on the way up, Verve were fizzling out after a last hurrah. The crowd was bigger for KoL. Those, sir, are facts.

2) Your smart arsed "Sure..." comment? I said I never implied YOU said that, just that it had been said. Your repeating of that just implies you have no sense of context. As for the 6 out of 10 comment? No, that's not necessarily true. Some people would argue that the biggest band was on the Saturday, some would disagree. On 4 out of those 10, the bigger band was CLEARLY not on the Saturday, with relevance to the UK gig goer. Going further back the "non-pattern" is still obvious with the likes of Bowie and REM on the Friday when they were clearly the biggest act, 2002 where there was no stand out headliner at that time and so on. In fact, it was probably only 2013 where there could be no argument that the biggest band was on the Saturday. To be fair on the 4 out of ten I was thinking, you could still make an argument another band was bigger. No pattern.

3) Taylor Swift's record sales are fairly irrelevant in a UK festival. Over 80% of her sales have been in the US, which has a huge country market. She only has a few songs that anyone would know here. I'd say the average male festival goer would struggle to name three of her songs and she's hardly going to put on an amazing live show. Foo Fighters and ACDC would tick both of those boxes.