When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Don't know why you're all getting your knickers in a twist about the new rules. They are mostly about stopping house parties. It's one thing they can do which doesn't affect economy.

 

[Zoo Music Girl]

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

What makes no sense at all in the rules before is that over six as long in two households indoors would be fine, but outdoors it's six no matter how many households? How does that work?

Anyone know what time the briefing will be?

Actually I'm wrong according to the BBC - it was two households any number, indoors or outdoors before;

Previously, guidance allowed gatherings of up to six people from different households outdoors - or two households of any size, indoors or outdoors. But until now the police have had no powers to stop them unless they exceed 30.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

It will allow police to break up any house parties.

[jparx]

1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Actually I'm wrong according to the BBC - it was two households any number, indoors or outdoors before;

Previously, guidance allowed gatherings of up to six people from different households outdoors - or two households of any size, indoors or outdoors. But until now the police have had no powers to stop them unless they exceed 30.

@Ozanne and your posts just show how awful the messaging has been on this. No clarity at all.

I’d say it’s Tory incompetence again, but I think the guidance is actually carefully crafted to be as muddy as possibly to cover themselves and shift the blame to us.

[Zoo Music Girl]

It's PMQs today isn't it? So briefing at 5?

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, jparx said:

@Ozanne and your posts just show how awful the messaging has been on this. No clarity at all.

I’d say it’s Tory incompetence again, but I think the guidance is actually carefully crafted to be as muddy as possibly to cover themselves and shift the blame to us.

Yeah that was kind of my point above, and that someone else made yesterday. If people who follow a thread like this daily are still confused about the rules, which I clearly am, how does anyone less engaged have a clue? I think you're right too that it's muddy on purpose.

[gazzared]

13 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

What makes no sense at all in the rules before is that over six as long in two households indoors would be fine, but outdoors it's six no matter how many households? How does that work?

Anyone know what time the briefing will be?

matt hancock is gonna be on virgin radio this morning, maybe he'll clear everything up 🤣

[Ozanne]

7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It's PMQs today isn't it? So briefing at 5?

I would think so. Johnson is also up at the Select Committee too I think today.

 

Yeah it’s pretty muddled, they must’ve changed the rules in August then as that’s what I read on gov.uk a few weeks back. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, WestCountryGirl said:

In the BBC story on the 6 person restriction it says

"No 10 said any group of seven or more people gathering anywhere "risks being dispersed by police or fined for non-compliance".

Is that a typo? Is that the government being aware that some people - police or population - find counting difficult and '7 is basically 6 anyway'? 

 

I took that to mean that gatherings of 6 and fewer are allowed, whereas a gathering of 7 (or more) can be broken up by the police

[WestCountryGirl]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

 

I took that to mean that gatherings of 6 and fewer are allowed, whereas a gathering of 7 (or more) can be broken up by the police

Yup. That's how the english language works. My reading comprehension upon just waking up is clearly not up to scratch... 🙈

 

[gazzared]

What I dont understand is why wait until Monday, surely thats just gonna encourage all the idiots to have big partys all weekend ???

[squirrelarmy]

2 minutes ago, gazzared said:

What I dont understand is why wait until Monday, surely thats just gonna encourage all the idiots to have big partys all weekend ???

Exactly my thoughts. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

3 minutes ago, gazzared said:

What I dont understand is why wait until Monday, surely thats just gonna encourage all the idiots to have big partys all weekend ???

It is weird. Like giving people over a week to buy a mask before making that compulsory. And yet the local lockdowns are enforced instantly aren't they?

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It is weird. Like giving people over a week to buy a mask before making that compulsory. And yet the local lockdowns are enforced instantly aren't they?

Boris will be at a party this weekend so he’s waiting till after he’s had his fun. 

[Padgey]

4 minutes ago, gazzared said:

What I dont understand is why wait until Monday, surely thats just gonna encourage all the idiots to have big partys all weekend ???

totally agree, and this has been the case with all of the big announcements.  The original lockdown was the same, everybody went out on the Friday night for a big piss up.  Then the introduction of groups, as soon as they mentioned it on the Friday people started that weekend rather than waiting for the Monday.  Why the f*** don't they just announce it on the Monday!

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Boris will be at a party this weekend so he’s waiting till after he’s had his fun. 

his wedding? It was announced he'd be marrying "in the summer".

I guess he might have put it off, but if he hasn't this is his last chance.

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

his wedding? It was announced he'd be marrying "in the summer".

I guess he might have put it off, but if he hasn't this is his last chance.

Weddings exempt from new rules.

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, WestCountryGirl said:

In the BBC story on the 6 person restriction it says

"No 10 said any group of seven or more people gathering anywhere "risks being dispersed by police or fined for non-compliance".

Is that a typo? Is that the government being aware that some people - police or population - find counting difficult and '7 is basically 6 anyway'? 

Up to six is allowed.  Seven is more than six, so not allowed.

[FestivalJamie]

Has anyone seen that contact tracing is now compulsory for businesses!!!

[gazzared]

chris evans asked matt hancock about a drive in gig hes going to, matt said he doenst think it'll be allowed to go ahead but will check with the PM later today . seems strange when they wont be leaving their cars ?

[WestCountryGirl]

Nevermind.

Edited September 9, 2020 by WestCountryGirl

[squirrelarmy]

Just seen the weather forecast for the weekend. Could be a lot of BBQs happening. 

[eFestivals]

18 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Weddings exempt from new rules.

not for the party after the wedding.

[eFestivals]

13 minutes ago, gazzared said:

chris evans asked matt hancock about a drive in gig hes going to, matt said he doenst think it'll be allowed to go ahead but will check with the PM later today . seems strange when they wont be leaving their cars ?

the 30 person law, which has now been dropped to 6 (from next week) doesn't apply to businesses, etc.

[gazzared]

4 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

the 30 person law, which has now been dropped to 6 (from next week) doesn't apply to businesses, etc.

yeah thats what I thought but when chris asked matt said he didnt think i'td be allowed , I think he meant because theyd have to leave thier cars at some point to go the toilets and stuff