When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

E.g.

 

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

E.g.

 

Is that why we have restrictions though? Because its to stop people dying in car parks. Not because the NHS is busy.

I'd rather we gave them more money tbh.  

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Is that why we have restrictions though? Because its to stop people dying in car parks. Not because the NHS is busy.

I'd rather we gave them more money tbh.  

Well yeah, they definitely need money, but that is fix for mid/long term, this is potentially a short term problem..if hospitals already busy and those projections come true could get messy.

[zahidf]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Well yeah, they definitely need money, but that is fix for mid/long term, this is potentially a short term problem..if hospitals already busy and those projections come true could get messy.

Can't they move support and resources  from one area to another to mitigate the issue? It seems regional specific rather than all over 

 

Restrictions should be a last resort. Not plan A

Edited July 7, 2021 by zahidf

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

E.g.

 

It’s this one that worries me.

Hopefully he’s wrong.

[BobWillis2]

3 hours ago, zahidf said:

So a medium case scenario means no chance of a swamped NHS and a pessimistic one which isn't close to the winters peak of 4000 a day? I can see why they are going ahead

Their projections have also been shit

[FakeEmpire]

We are talking about a different issue here though; an underfunded NHS. We could lockdown for many more months or even years and not fix that problem without electing a different government.

It just is not reasonable to enforce tough restrictions on daily lives because the NHS is not being funded properly. As a country, we should not accept that. The correct response is to fund the NHS properly.

 

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, FakeEmpire said:

We are talking about a different issue here though; an underfunded NHS. We could lockdown for many more months or even years and not fix that problem without electing a different government.

It just is not reasonable to enforce tough restrictions on daily lives because the NHS is not being funded properly. As a country, we should not accept that. The correct response is to fund the NHS properly.

 

Yup. Accepting restrictions because of underfunding is perfect for the Tory govt. Such the fun out of like except work and not bother giving money to the NHS

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, FakeEmpire said:

We are talking about a different issue here though; an underfunded NHS. We could lockdown for many more months or even years and not fix that problem without electing a different government.

It just is not reasonable to enforce tough restrictions on daily lives because the NHS is not being funded properly. As a country, we should not accept that. The correct response is to fund the NHS properly.

 

Yes, and social care...needs loads of money...and where's it all going to come from?

[HalfAnIdiot]

Time to fund the NHS to bud the surge capacity that it needs. 

Why isn't Labour focusing on this rather than unrealistic and unachievable building ventilation issues. 

No fucking clue.

Angry and dissapointed. 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

Time to fund the NHS to bud the surge capacity that it needs. 

Why isn't Labour focusing on this rather than unrealistic and unachievable building ventilation issues. 

No fucking clue.

Angry and dissapointed. 

That sort of stuff is for future manifestos. 

[HalfAnIdiot]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

That sort of stuff is for future manifestos. 

Its for NOW. I'm completely frustrated by Labour's shit approach. 

Back to basics. Fght for the workers. Use the huge wealth of this country for the greater good. We are a rich nation, there should not be foodbanks. 

WTF are they playing at. This should be easy. 

 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

4 hours ago, zahidf said:

Can't they move support and resources  from one area to another to mitigate the issue? It seems regional specific rather than all over 

 

Restrictions should be a last resort. Not plan A

Ambulance services have partner services for taking 999 calls not sure if this filters to the actual sending of ambulances though.

Will ask some questions of someone who will know tomorrow as I'm interested to know. 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

Its for NOW. I'm completely frustrated by Labour's shit approach. 

Back to basics. Fght for the workers. Use the huge wealth of this country for the greater good. We are a rich nation, there should not be foodbanks. 

WTF are they playing at. This should be easy. 

 

You mean nurses pay? I mean, the govt have been throwing billions at everything the last year, but there's been too much underfunding for years which can't be fixed quickly. The whole pandemic has been fire fighting, but what should come next is how going to fund health and social care with an aging population and now covid and the risk of future pandemics and god knows what else. 

[HalfAnIdiot]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

You mean nurses pay? I mean, the govt have been throwing billions at everything the last year, but there's been too much underfunding for years which can't be fixed quickly. The whole pandemic has been fire fighting, but what should come next is how going to fund health and social care with an aging population and now covid and the risk of future pandemics and god knows what else. 

No, I mean we face all the issues you list AND we are a very rich country. Labour should be putting those two things together to produce progressive policies. They should not be arguing for better air-con #LostThePlot

[HalfAnIdiot]

4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Yeah because wearing a mask right now is having a huge impact

FFS Barry just don't wear the mask if you don't want to. It's not a police state. 

Odd to keep banging in about something that is completely in your own control. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by HalfAnIdiot

[HalfAnIdiot]

3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Not right now it isn't - its the law until July 19th and I do my best to follow it.

Good for you, and genuinely thank you for making the effort. It just doesn't come across that way sometimes. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by HalfAnIdiot

[rivalschools.price]

1 hour ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

FFS Barry just don't wear the mask if you don't want to. It's not a police state. 

Odd to keep banging in about something that is completely in your own control. 

Exactly,at least 80% of his post history is about masks. 
 

@Barry Fish I hereby give you permission to not wear a mask ever again as long as you stop posting about it*
 

*not 100% sure this post is legally binding and can be shown to a driver on public transport as evidence of your exemption.

[Nikky]

On 3/22/2020 at 3:45 PM, Chrisp1986 said:

Basic question, when do people genuinely think live music will restart and life gets back to normal?

For me today! First major event. Ok, lineup could be better but still for people who like to rave this is great.

[kalifire]

Just back from getting my second Pfizer. Bracing for side effects but very happy to be fully vaxxed. What a fucking magnificent scientific achievement. 

[FloorFiller]

1 hour ago, Nikky said:

For me today! First major event. Ok, lineup could be better but still for people who like to rave this is great.

Wait, why are Sabaton playing this?!

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

No, I mean we face all the issues you list AND we are a very rich country. Labour should be putting those two things together to produce progressive policies. They should not be arguing for better air-con #LostThePlot

There's no point coming out with new policies on spending until closer to the next election. The ventilation thing and masks are what need fixing now, and to be honest are a bit of point scoring. But actual labour policies on spending can't be made yet, because may not be realistic in a few years anyway, or Tories might just promise same or more. It's politics. And labour aren't in government anyway, so all they can do is try and get noticed really.

 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Nikky said:

For me today! First major event. Ok, lineup could be better but still for people who like to rave this is great.

I used to be a bit of a raver, but those days are long gone and I don't recognise most on that line up. Have a great time.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

I've tried searching online without any definitive success but I can't seem to find any simple data confirming how effective two jabs of the AZ vaccine are. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or maybe our resident scientician @Toilet Duck would know?

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

6 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Wait, why are Sabaton playing this?!

Swedish gabba and speedcore DJ set