When will this shit end?

[DeanoL]

1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Didn't Johnson say no more national lockdowns? Not that that counts for much, but I do feel like they might try to avoid it by just strengthening the tiers. As long as the Scilly isles are in tier 1 they can keep saying it's not a lockdown...

No more national lockdowns but we are all in Tier 4. Except London which will move there two weeks later.

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

No more national lockdowns but we are all in Tier 4. Except London which will move there two weeks later.

I think you might be on the money!

Tier 4 or Tier 3+ is the same as Tier 3 except gym, hairdressers and non-essential retail shut. But it's not a lockdown.

[zahidf]

Ireland into lockdown post Xmas

 

[oneeye]

Some might say tier infinitely and beyond

[Fuzzy Afro]

2 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Didn't Johnson say no more national lockdowns? Not that that counts for much, but I do feel like they might try to avoid it by just strengthening the tiers. As long as the Scilly isles are in tier 1 they can keep saying it's not a lockdown...

He said that the first time as well. He’s not a man of his word. Plus I’m genuinely concerned there could be 1000+ daily deaths and an overwhelmed NHS which would surely make it inevitable. 

[zahidf]

Anyway, some positive news, Johnson and Johnson are due to have their effacy phase 3 results end of Jan. If that works, its one shot and we have 30 million on order.

[Zoo Music Girl]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

He said that the first time as well. He’s not a man of his word. Plus I’m genuinely concerned there could be 1000+ daily deaths and an overwhelmed NHS which would surely make it inevitable. 

Yeah, as I say, his word doesn't count for much. I think we will either be in lockdown by all but name or he will be forced into it by the death numbers. Yay.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Anyway, some positive news, Johnson and Johnson are due to have their effacy phase 3 results end of Jan. If that works, its one shot and we have 30 million on order.

all these jabs and not enough people delivering them .... thats gonna be the issue more than availability now ....

[incident]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Anyway, some positive news, Johnson and Johnson are due to have their effacy phase 3 results end of Jan. If that works, its one shot and we have 30 million on order.

I wouldn't rely on that one too much.

The fact that Janssen (J+J) launched a new Phase 3 trial about a month back, in order to test a 2 dose regiment of their vaccine candidate might indicate that the results of the 1 dose regiment weren't as strong as they hoped.

Novavax should be reporting around the same time or soon after Janssen as well.

[oneeye]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

all these jabs and not enough people delivering them .... thats gonna be the issue more than availability now ....

Ah, I think think there will be. I've seen email traffic requests for those first aid trained at work to volunteer, trained up locally plus you get jabbed as well, for example....

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, oneeye said:

Ah, I think think there will be. I've seen email traffic requests for those first aid trained at work to volunteer, trained up locally plus you get jabbed as well, for example....

so you think we might deliver more than 1m a week ?  hope thats a conservative estimate ... 

[oneeye]

I meant first aid at work trained 

[oneeye]

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

so you think we might deliver more than 1m a week ?  hope thats a conservative estimate ... 

No, not initially but I do think we will slowly start to ramp up with a structured roll out 

[oneeye]

Agreed it's a logistical nightmare but we've waited this long....

[Guest]

 

[Crazyfool01]

fish 😞 

[oneeye]

The one fly in the ointment in all this is our government, couldn't run a bath let alone a vaccination rollout - fuckin useless 

[oneeye]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

fish 😞 

[zahidf]

8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Lol same as it ever was

[gfa]

12 hours ago, eFestivals said:

which will be laughable given how the govt reacted to some London schools wanting to close for xmas early.

very little the government does isn't laughable at this point honestly

[Guest]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/17/nhs-hospitals-running-out-of-beds-as-covid-cases-continue-to-surge?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Gingerfish79]

Imagine not getting a free trade deal because of fish that most British people don’t eat and will have no market value with said trade deal.

[steviewevie]

it will all be done and dusted by this time tomorrow.

You heard it here first.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

45 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Go vegan. Deal done.

[Hugh Jass]

1 minute ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Go vegan. Deal done.