When will this shit end?

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Cases only down 10% today but testing more than doubled since last week with all the school LFTs.

 

Vaccines are destroying covid, and it’s great to see. You normally don’t see absolute domination on this scale unless you look at pornhub. 

bloody hell thats a lot of tests ... id missed that 🙂 

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, hodgey123 said:

The deaths are again down by 33% which is the most important thing. 

would hospitalistions  become the most important figure soon ? !! 

Edited March 9, 2021 by crazyfool1

[zahidf]

 

[dingbat2]

I assume a positive LFT at a school would show up as a positive case in the case data?

So an extra 1 million tests produced no significant change in cases, so virtually all LF tests in schools were negative? Am I reading that correctly, so kids are almost entirely unaffected  by the virus at the moment

...appreciating that a lot of the tests before would have been from people requesting a test/showing symptoms so more likely to be positive on the whole than from random/enforced testing at schools

[steviewevie]

about NHS algorithm incorreclty selecting people for jabs

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/09/scientists-question-nhs-algorithm-as-young-people-called-in-for-jab

[northernringo]

15 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Cases only down 10% today but testing more than doubled since last week with all the school LFTs.

 

Vaccines are destroying covid, and it’s great to see. You normally don’t see absolute domination on this scale unless you look at pornhub. 

These comments you keep making about vaccinations are pretty weird...

[steviewevie]

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

2 minutes ago, northernringo said:

These comments you keep making about vaccinations are pretty weird...

Why wouldn’t you be happy about the upcoming end to a situation that’s killed 120,000 people?

[st dan]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

That makes no sense at all. If the subsequent PCR test is negative then that should be enough to allow them to return. 

[incident]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

So his exact statement is - "Here again, the facts do not lie. The United Kingdom and the United States have imposed an outright ban on the export of vaccines or vaccine components produced on their territory."

I don't understand why he's made a statement that's so easily demonstrable as an outright lie - in both cases. Unless he's going to use the wriggle room of "vaccine components" and find some obscure part of the supply chain where a restriction has been made - but generally speaking that's just not true.

The UK absolutely has not put a ban in place. You can argue there's an effective ban because of the way that the procurement contracts for AZ and Novavax are structured means that the Government have control of the UK produced supply (the manufacturing plants producing those vaccines are directly contracted to the government rather than to AZ and Novavax) so those companies can't easily send doses elsewhere, but in reality that's quite a bit different from an actual ban. Other plants not contracted to the Government could legally produce doses and send them anywhere they want.

The US doesn't have a ban in place either - they might not have sent any doses to the EU, but plenty of countries worldwide have received doses manufactured in the US.

[Guest]

Vaccination update:

 

Edited March 9, 2021 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

No algorithm is perfect - that is the reality

As long as it doesn't miss anyone who really needs one I would accept the odd young person getting it.

yeah, sure...but as long as people know that and aren't worried that they might be considered at risk when they're not.

[hodgey123]

25 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

would hospitalistions  become the most important figure soon ? !! 

Yeah you're right, couldn't find/didn't have time to look for last Tuesday's hospitalisation figure.

[Leyrulion]

Huge number of tests means the positivity ratio is a tiny 0.3%. WHO have 5% or lower for two weeks as the threshold for reducing restrictions. 

Don't think any of the similarly sized EU countries have a ratio that low.  

More good signs of us being able to stay on top of this through spring and summer.

 

Also we're able to sequence about 25,000 positive cases a week to check for new varients so that's 62% of all cases currently being sequenced. Making it a lot harder for new strains to go unnoticed. 

 

Does anyone know how they work out if a new strain should be labelled a varient of concern?

Edited March 9, 2021 by Leyrulion

[Andre91]

At my school, we had just the one positive case in Year 11 yesterday (15 students off isolating) and zero today in Year 10 (we’ve got a year group coming back per day this week). One positive test out of 500+ students is excellent. Here’s hoping we find as little cases as possible between tomorrow and Friday now! 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Andre91 said:

At my school, we had just the one positive case in Year 11 yesterday (15 students off isolating) and zero today in Year 10 (we’ve got a year group coming back per day this week). One positive test out of 500+ students is excellent. Here’s hoping we find as little cases as possible between tomorrow and Friday now! 

what % of students are doing the voluntary tests ? 

[mcshed]

1 hour ago, Leyrulion said:

That's not what I was suggesting sorry, I thought you were saying that masks have made no contribution to the reduction in flu prevalence this year and if so could you share the source of that?

I think we are talking at cross purposes. I was saying pointing to this year's flu numbers and saying look how effective masks are is silly as masks are a more marginal measure than a total lockdown of the country. 

I'm not saying they have no effect and have said that continued use on busy public transport and by those who are unwell and think they are infectious has merit, I just think looking at this year's flu numbers and saying look what we could if we kept wearing masks is naïve.

[northernringo]

36 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Why wouldn’t you be happy about the upcoming end to a situation that’s killed 120,000 people?

Who said I wasn't happy?

I just find some of your comments a little strange, like:

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You normally don’t see absolute domination on this scale unless you look at pornhub. 

And:

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Covid is getting fucked by the long hard dick of the vaccines. Love it. 

 

[mcshed]

43 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Why wouldn’t you be happy about the upcoming end to a situation that’s killed 120,000 people?

He wasn't saying being happy is weird he was saying you have a weird way of expressing it.

[Chapple12345]

45 minutes ago, st dan said:

That makes no sense at all. If the subsequent PCR test is negative then that should be enough to allow them to return. 

This is how the process works for our staff at work, surely it would be the same for children too? 

[Andre91]

33 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

what % of students are doing the voluntary tests ? 

90 odd % in both year groups so far. Outstanding. 

[zahidf]

58 minutes ago, incident said:

So his exact statement is - "Here again, the facts do not lie. The United Kingdom and the United States have imposed an outright ban on the export of vaccines or vaccine components produced on their territory."

I don't understand why he's made a statement that's so easily demonstrable as an outright lie - in both cases. Unless he's going to use the wriggle room of "vaccine components" and find some obscure part of the supply chain where a restriction has been made - but generally speaking that's just not true.

The UK absolutely has not put a ban in place. You can argue there's an effective ban because of the way that the procurement contracts for AZ and Novavax are structured means that the Government have control of the UK produced supply (the manufacturing plants producing those vaccines are directly contracted to the government rather than to AZ and Novavax) so those companies can't easily send doses elsewhere, but in reality that's quite a bit different from an actual ban. Other plants not contracted to the Government could legally produce doses and send them anywhere they want.

The US doesn't have a ban in place either - they might not have sent any doses to the EU, but plenty of countries worldwide have received doses manufactured in the US.

 

[BobWillis2]

A reminder to those that worry about case rates in their local area. Just because case rates might go up for the next week or so doesn’t necessarily mean anything has changed at all.
Mass testing of school kids is picking up asymptomatic cases that were always there and were there throughout the same period that cases were declining but weren’t being picked up because they weren’t being tested. This is a good thing and should speed up the decline in cases once things settle down in a couple of weeks. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, BobWillis2 said:

A reminder to those that worry about case rates in their local area. Just because case rates might go up for the next week or so doesn’t necessarily mean anything has changed at all.
Mass testing of school kids is picking up asymptomatic cases that were always there and were there throughout the same period that cases were declining but weren’t being picked up because they weren’t being tested. This is a good thing and should speed up the decline in cases once things settle down in a couple of weeks. 

absolutely 🙂 ... 

[Avalon_Fields]

41 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

At my school, we had just the one positive case in Year 11 yesterday (15 students off isolating) and zero today in Year 10 (we’ve got a year group coming back per day this week). One positive test out of 500+ students is excellent. Here’s hoping we find as little cases as possible between tomorrow and Friday now! 

I've been helping out at a secondary school with lateral flow testing yesterday & today. We have had two positives. There's 925 pupils in the school, certainly not all taking up the tests but it's around 85% I believe.