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[zahidf]

Yup

 

[Matt42]

2 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9572773/Pete-Townshend-I-paid-for-child-porn-to-prove-British-banks-were-channelling-sex-ring-cash.html

Lots to unpack here

[Quark]

2 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9572773/Pete-Townshend-I-paid-for-child-porn-to-prove-British-banks-were-channelling-sex-ring-cash.html

The Austin Powers defence

[Hugh Jass]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

Where does my statement mention the court case?

The “we do not condone” comment makes reference to behaviour that was the subject of a police investigation/court case and would be considered legally as making comment as the band would undoubtedly be aware. Had Meighan pleaded not guilty then comments like “we do not condone” could influence any jury. Similarly an employer cannot fire an employee until after their court case is complete, or they have pleaded guilty. Doing so before is a breach of HR law.

They would have been briefed by their legal and PR people in exactly what they could and could not say.

[zahidf]

Jesus

 

 

From the sounds of it he only plead guilty because of the CCTV

[The Nal]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Jesus

Do you only communicate in Twitter dumps?

[fatyeti24]

10 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Lots to unpack here

Said Pete Townshend as he typed in his credit card details.

[WS_Jack_III]

Big yikes. Look at you guys being able to read between the lines from that Kasabian statement. 

[Matt42]

Only got community service for that? 

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Only got community service for that? 

Yeah pretty digesting 

[Matt42]

The replies to this NME tweet show why it’s important for people who have supported Tom to publicly come out and denounce him. This is why I think the lad lad lad culture in indie music needs to handled more aggressively...

 

[Gilgamesh69]

3 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

The replies to this NME tweet show why it’s important for people who have supported Tom to publicly come out and denounce him. This is why I think the lad lad lad culture in indie music needs to handled more aggressively...

 

What the fuck is wrong with these people

[Matt42]

Just now, Gilgamesh69 said:

What the fuck is wrong with these people

Yeah man what a fucking shame that he did that. Oh well when he’s done his 200 hours hope he comes back to making quality music because during lockdown mate I’m missing my strongbow dark fruits tunes!

[Hugh Jass]

12 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Yeah pretty digesting 

I can’t stomach it either.

[gigpusher]

This all happened on 9th of April. Feels a little like Kasabian are more concerned about brand Kasabian than taking any moral stand. 

[Chapple12345]

1 minute ago, gigpusher said:

This all happened on 9th of April. Feels a little like Kasabian are more concerned about brand Kasabian than taking any moral stand. 

I understand this view point but could they have actually commented on it if there was legal action taking place? Sorry I’m not sure on different legislation on privacy in these cases 

[august1]

The fact he only created a twitter account after this and been doing 'band work' is dodgy as fuck tbh. 

[gigpusher]

Just now, Chapple12345 said:

I understand this view point but could they have actually commented on it if there was legal action taking place? Sorry I’m not sure on different legislation on privacy in these cases 

But they didn't comment on it anyway they just waited until the day before he was clearly pleading guilty to try and disassociate him from them.

I would understand more standing by a friend and sticking by them through thick and thin or ditching him immediately because of a moral objection to what they did but they have done the more cynical thing of not standing by a friend or having a moral stance. 

[dentalplan]

14 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

The replies to this NME tweet show why it’s important for people who have supported Tom to publicly come out and denounce him. This is why I think the lad lad lad culture in indie music needs to handled more aggressively...

 

 

8 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Yeah man what a fucking shame that he did that. Oh well when he’s done his 200 hours hope he comes back to making quality music because during lockdown mate I’m missing my strongbow dark fruits tunes!

Can you not just say that some people on Twitter are being pricks without demonising groups of people for what music they listen to?

[Gilgamesh69]

2 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

 

Can you not just say that some people on Twitter are being pricks without demonising groups of people for what music they listen to?

Anyone that praises bands like Kasabian, Catfish and the Misogynistmen, and Courteeners DESERVE to be mocked and ridiculed

[Matt42]

2 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

 

Can you not just say that some people on Twitter are being pricks without demonising groups of people for what music they listen to?

Do you not see this as an issue though? Some pricks on twitter are just those who are confident enough to vocalise their views. Many will agree and not say anything. I would much rather identify conversations we should be having and target them head on rather than leave it be.

Plus I can’t see why that example would be a problem unless the shoe fit?

[Matt42]

1 minute ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

Anyone that praises bands like Kasabian, Catfish and the Misogynistmen, and Courteeners DESERVE to be mocked and ridiculed

Lol let’s just leave lad culture unchallenged then because we are afraid to have some difficult conversations.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Will be interesting to see whether or not the band release any sort of follow up statement post sentencing, as I tend to agree they have adopted a bit of cake and eat it tactic here.

[Hugh Jass]

6 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Do you not see this as an issue though? Some pricks on twitter are just those who are confident enough to vocalise their views. Many will agree and not say anything. I would much rather identify conversations we should be having and target them head on rather than leave it be.

Plus I can’t see why that example would be a problem unless the shoe fit?

How about the view that once a man has completed his sentence and paid his debt to society he is free to seek a living however he can?

It’s a sticky moral area when it comes to figures in the public eye, but were he a plumber would you stop him from installing toilets when he had finished his sentence?

The idea of rehabilitation and return to society to live a normal life is a core tenant of the justice system.

[dentalplan]

2 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Do you not see this as an issue though? Some pricks on twitter are just those who are confident enough to vocalise their views. Many will agree and not say anything. I would much rather identify conversations we should be having and target them head on rather than leave it be.

Plus I can’t see why that example would be a problem unless the shoe fit?

You’re taking issue with a guy saying he hopes he pays his dues and learns from this? You think it’s toxic to hope that the rehabilitation system can rehabilitate someone?

Kasabian haven’t done anything to foster lad culture before have they? It’s just a generalisation you have for their fans. Imagine generalising rap fans for something abusive a rapper is found to have done, or pop punk fans because of one of their heroes doing shady shit.

People will be willing to indulge you in your ‘difficult conversations’ when you grow up about it.