CaledonianGonzo Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 2019 slowly morphing into a repeat of 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostdancer1 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Mattymooz said: Thought Janet was pretty nailed for that slot no? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whateverworksout Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Lovebox lineup has just been announced for July, hoping we get Chance and Brockhampton from it but unsure if this makes them less likely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 The latter are exclusive, so it definitely does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superunknown Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, whateverworksout said: Lovebox lineup has just been announced for July, hoping we get Chance and Brockhampton from it but unsure if this makes them less likely? Brockhampton are a Lovebox UK exclusive. Edited February 12, 2019 by Superunknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbizarre Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Father John Misty is out - in US touring over Glastonbury dates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrod Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Look at the dates Jade Bird is supporting and when she's leaving - Pretty sure she'll be at the farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Man Half Mattress Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said: The latter are exclusive, so it definitely does. Isn’t the ‘exclusive’ tag a bit flimsy though? I’m sure Future Islands were billed as exclusives at Green Man in 2017 but played Glastonbury too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenlangan95 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Aphex Twin doing Rock en Seine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseboy11 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said: Been thinking about this sort of thing this morning, after I only just discovered that Alexander Jodorowsky said a lot of stuff back in the day about how much he loved raping. I think it's in our nature to want to deny that people important to us may be pieces of shit, if you've connected with a piece of art for a long time and it's important to you then it's unpleasant to think that the person on the other end of that art had done evil things. Add on top of that, if you're black in America and lived your life with most of your experience being that the white hegemony does everything it can to keep you down and make you feel like shit, there's an extra layer of importance when a black person rises up to do exceptional things beyond what anybody else has done. And then on top of that there's the doubt that the white establishment who'll shoot unarmed poor black people without valid reason and get away with it would act in good faith when dealing with the most visible and influential black figures; should you trust them when they say the most celebrated black sportsperson murdered his wife, or that the most celebrated black comedian raped scores of women, or that the most celebrated black musician sexually abused children. This Quincy Jones thing doesn't even involve Michael, you can engage with the music that you love without having to deal with the problematic person. I'd go if I had the money and lived in London. This country lionises Winston Churchill, Woody Allen is still out there making films, Bryan Singer's films are winning prestigious awards, prominent transphobes like Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan still get work, why should I draw the line differently with Michael Jackson? Does this mean I can still listen to Brand New? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Lawn Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said: Does this mean I can still listen to Brand New? Do you feel like you can still listen to Brand New? If you're not turned off by what Jesse did and you're not providing him with money and resources to get away with what he did then yeah there's nothing wrong with listening to Brand New on your own time. Depends how you personally feel about it, I can listen to Michael Jackson and enjoy it completely for the music, but right now I don't feel like I can enjoy Morrissey or Hookworms at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 It's still good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdavejohnson Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Nimrod said: Look at the dates Jade Bird is supporting and when she's leaving - Pretty sure she'll be at the farm. Ooooh that does bode well - was hoping she'd show up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: It's still good! Yuuuuuuuuuuuurs!!! Even if they don’t make it to G, I’d be getting tickets for that if they come over these shores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zico martin Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said: Been thinking about this sort of thing this morning, after I only just discovered that Alexander Jodorowsky said a lot of stuff back in the day about how much he loved raping. I think it's in our nature to want to deny that people important to us may be pieces of shit, if you've connected with a piece of art for a long time and it's important to you then it's unpleasant to think that the person on the other end of that art had done evil things. Add on top of that, if you're black in America and lived your life with most of your experience being that the white hegemony does everything it can to keep you down and make you feel like shit, there's an extra layer of importance when a black person rises up to do exceptional things beyond what anybody else has done. And then on top of that there's the doubt that the white establishment who'll shoot unarmed poor black people without valid reason and get away with it would act in good faith when dealing with the most visible and influential black figures; should you trust them when they say the most celebrated black sportsperson murdered his wife, or that the most celebrated black comedian raped scores of women, or that the most celebrated black musician sexually abused children. This Quincy Jones thing doesn't even involve Michael, you can engage with the music that you love without having to deal with the problematic person. I'd go if I had the money and lived in London. This country lionises Winston Churchill, Woody Allen is still out there making films, Bryan Singer's films are winning prestigious awards, prominent transphobes like Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan still get work, why should I draw the line differently with Michael Jackson? A bit harsh on Ricky Gervais I think. I felt kinda apprehensive when he recently joked about Caitlin jenna but i don't feel they were transphobic. Imho obvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Half Man Half Mattress said: Huzzah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said: It's still good! Honestly if this tour came to UK it would easily be highlight of the year for me. Gutted it's in the US a month after I'm in Miami. Hope to see both on the farm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 I feel that it bodes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Seen a few Joe Jackson festival shows pop up in Europe. Not sure it'd be of any interest to folk here, but it seems like the kinda thing the festival would snatch up for an Acoustic headline slot. Maybe afternoon Pyramid, idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatty Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said: Been thinking about this sort of thing this morning, after I only just discovered that Alexander Jodorowsky said a lot of stuff back in the day about how much he loved raping. I think it's in our nature to want to deny that people important to us may be pieces of shit, if you've connected with a piece of art for a long time and it's important to you then it's unpleasant to think that the person on the other end of that art had done evil things. Add on top of that, if you're black in America and lived your life with most of your experience being that the white hegemony does everything it can to keep you down and make you feel like shit, there's an extra layer of importance when a black person rises up to do exceptional things beyond what anybody else has done. And then on top of that there's the doubt that the white establishment who'll shoot unarmed poor black people without valid reason and get away with it would act in good faith when dealing with the most visible and influential black figures; should you trust them when they say the most celebrated black sportsperson murdered his wife, or that the most celebrated black comedian raped scores of women, or that the most celebrated black musician sexually abused children. This Quincy Jones thing doesn't even involve Michael, you can engage with the music that you love without having to deal with the problematic person. I'd go if I had the money and lived in London. This country lionises Winston Churchill, Woody Allen is still out there making films, Bryan Singer's films are winning prestigious awards, prominent transphobes like Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan still get work, why should I draw the line differently with Michael Jackson? Sometimes bad people are genuinely talented and youll find that in most things over the course of history. Its just the way it is. I guess its up to your conscience on whether you can go along with it or not. Sometimes you need to dig into things to make your mind up. Example, Im a Tyson fan, can watch him fight and really enjoy it but hes no doubt done some messed up shit and most famously was jailed for rape. Now Ive read into that and Im not fully confident he did do it but Im not fully confident he didnt either. I just try and seperate the fighter from the person. I can watch Chris Benoit wrestle and enjoy it yet he killed his own wife and kid and thats up there with the best of grade A pricks. I think Adam Johnson is a scumbag yet I can still listen to Elvis, Bowie and Led Zep and not really dislike them and they did worse than Johnson on paper. I could go on but you get the point. I guess we can all be capable of hypocrasy and also sometimes different circumstances alsonhave an impact. Good people can do bad things as well, it happens, were all human and were all fallable. Tbh Im not fully up to knowledge on Jacksons paedo accusations, dont know the full story of the cases, started reading once but seemed like a clusterfuck. I always got the impression he suffered serious mental health issues, that obviously doesnt make it right if he did do the things hes accused of but who knows, maybes he was taken advantage of and put himself in situations to be so by being to soft. Gone on a bit of a ramble, guess my point is everyones probably done some bad shit in their life, sometimes you gotta either forgive them if they turned thibgs around or done more so to balance the bad out or other times seperate the artist from the person. You cant go around shunning everything created by someone who did something you disagree with otherwise youd end up shunning everyone. There are of course exceptions to that as well tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Lawn Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, zico martin said: A bit harsh on Ricky Gervais I think. I felt kinda apprehensive when he recently joked about Caitlin jenna but i don't feel they were transphobic. Imho obvs Either you're not aware of what his jokes were or you don't know what transphobia is. Dead-naming a trans person is a deliberate way to deny them to own their identity, it's refusing to recognise somebody by their identified gender. It's the most open and shut textbook case of transphobia you'll find. More to the point, he equated being transgender with identifying as a fucking chimp. He's a transphobic piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyDunlop Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Please God... no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Lawn Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 "Coming home to you"? that's pretty fucking threatening. I don't owe Andrew Lloyd Webber any money, please keep out of my home, Ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry bear Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, FuzzyDunlop said: Please God... no. Not this again. I had to get a restraining order against him, he’s not allowed to be within 2 miles of my home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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