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1 minute ago, incident said:

Given that so many people have put them in, and I'm pedantic - can I just point out that any leading zero in binary is redundant except to increase / fill out the bit length, and so in this context utterly pointless?

This coming from the person who realised they had no toilet paper after having had a shit.

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2 minutes ago, incident said:

Given that so many people have put them in, and I'm pedantic - can I just point out that any leading zero in binary is redundant except to increase / fill out the bit length, and so in this context utterly pointless?

Only if you are not a "Computer, OK"

Computers need them

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52 minutes ago, jparx said:

UNLESS Neil was right all along, and the 'HUGE' part is Radiohead on the Hell Stage.

Maybe Neil has known that all along and he's just been hiding the info in plain sight. 

Can you imagine?!

Nah cause they wouldn't be announced and so that wouldn't be news coming soon.

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I don't think that HUGE news part has anything to do with Radiohead but it could definitely be to do with the full lineup. I think the fact that they've only announced a couple of acts now actually lends itself to the idea that they might not be releasing the Glade and Shangri-La lineups before the full lineup and that the full lineup is going to come pretty soon.

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I didn't read it as the HUGE news being hell stage related.  They said their news was coming out over the coming weeks but to look out for some HUGE music news. Maybe grabbing straws again.

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Yeah, the wording seems to suggest that the HUGE is 'music news' as opposed to specifically Shangri-La news, which suggests to me they're talking about the big poster. HUGE news that happens to also involve them. 

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1 minute ago, jonodillieono said:

Really? Why?

Doesnt for example 0001001=001001=01001=1001?

Blimey I'm no authority on these things but, doesn't a computer need to know when one letter ends and another starts and hence I needs a fixed length for each letter. Otherwise how would it know if 01110 was 01-110 or 0111-0, etc

Computers only work with 1 and 0. They are pretty thick in that respect

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3 hours ago, Festival Liam said:

Now the secret sale obsession (just for a friend luckily) has died down somewhat... can we get a poster please? Having failed on that front, I want some cheering up. 

Me too.  And my coach is a lot later than I'd hoped - but maybe I won't be so knackered at the end if I get there at a sensible time.

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16 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Blimey I'm no authority on these things but, doesn't a computer need to know when one letter ends and another starts and hence I needs a fixed length for each letter. Otherwise how would it know if 01110 was 01-110 or 0111-0, etc

Computers only work with 1 and 0. They are pretty thick in that respect

Correct.

0100100001100101011100100110010100100000011010010111001100100000011101000110100001100101001000000110101101100101011110010010110000100000011000100111010101110100001000000111100101101111011101010010000001101110011001010110010101100100001000000111010001101000011001010010000001101011011001010111100100100000011101000110111100100000011101010110111001100100011001010111001001110011011101000110000101101110011001000010000001101001011101000010111000100000011010000111010001110100011100000011101000101111001011110111011101110111011101110010111001110010011011110111010101100010011000010110100101111000011010010110111001110100011001010111001001100001011000110111010001101001011101100110010100101110011000110110111101101101001011110101000001101100011000010111100101000111011100100110111101110101011011100110010000101111010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001010111110100001101101111011011100111011001100101011100100111001101101001011011110110111000101111010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001010111110101010001101111010111110101010001100101011110000111010000101110011000010111001101110000

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2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Correct.

0100100001100101011100100110010100100000011010010111001100100000011101000110100001100101001000000110101101100101011110010010110000100000011000100111010101110100001000000111100101101111011101010010000001101110011001010110010101100100001000000111010001101000011001010010000001101011011001010111100100100000011101000110111100100000011101010110111001100100011001010111001001110011011101000110000101101110011001000010000001101001011101000010111000100000011010000111010001110100011100000011101000101111001011110111011101110111011101110010111001110010011011110111010101100010011000010110100101111000011010010110111001110100011001010111001001100001011000110111010001101001011101100110010100101110011000110110111101101101001011110101000001101100011000010111100101000111011100100110111101110101011011100110010000101111010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001010111110100001101101111011011100111011001100101011100100111001101101001011011110110111000101111010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001010111110101010001101111010111110101010001100101011110000111010000101110011000010111001101110000

0110000101101000011000010110100001100001011010000110000101101000

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2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Correct.

0100100001100101011100100110010100100000011010010111001100100000011101000110100001100101001000000110101101100101011110010010110000100000011000100111010101110100001000000111100101101111011101010010000001101110011001010110010101100100001000000111010001101000011001010010000001101011011001010111100100100000011101000110111100100000011101010110111001100100011001010111001001110011011101000110000101101110011001000010000001101001011101000010111000100000011010000111010001110100011100000011101000101111001011110111011101110111011101110010111001110010011011110111010101100010011000010110100101111000011010010110111001110100011001010111001001100001011000110111010001101001011101100110010100101110011000110110111101101101001011110101000001101100011000010111100101000111011100100110111101110101011011100110010000101111010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001010111110100001101101111011011100111011001100101011100100111001101101001011011110110111000101111010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001010111110101010001101111010111110101010001100101011110000111010000101110011000010111001101110000

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1001 in binary = 9 in decimal, 00001001 also = 9 in decimal, the 0's to the left are redundant data and would not be stored in memory as they hold no value,  it would be inefficient and cost ineffective to store them. 

And back on topic, I would love a huge announcement in regards to a new act, I feel however it will just be regarding shangri la 

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5 minutes ago, Heartbreaker said:

1001 in binary = 9 in decimal, 00001001 also = 9 in decimal, the 0's to the left are redundant data and would not be stored in memory as they hold no value,  it would be inefficient and cost ineffective to store them. 

And back on topic, I would love a huge announcement in regards to a new act, I feel however it will just be regarding shangri la 

but if a computer ignored leading zeros, how it would know when one character ended and the next one started? They need fixed length don't they? 8bit, 16bit, etc...

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18 minutes ago, Heartbreaker said:

1001 in binary = 9 in decimal, 00001001 also = 9 in decimal, the 0's to the left are redundant data and would not be stored in memory as they hold no value,  it would be inefficient and cost ineffective to store them. 

And back on topic, I would love a huge announcement in regards to a new act, I feel however it will just be regarding shangri la 

Yes they would, as a zero! Or more precisely, an amount of current low enough to represent the off state.

Sure, you could imagine a compression routine that didn't store those leading zeros, but that would only make sense if the size of the field could be described in fewer bits than the leading zeros. I don't know enough about compression algorithms to say whether that does exist, but I doubt it.

But as for how the raw binary is stored in memory, the leading zeros are there. You may as well say that the leading 1s don't need to be stored.

Mathematically you're right, but that's not quite how computers work when we get so low level.

 

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1 hour ago, jonodillieono said:

Really? Why?

Doesnt for example 0001001=001001=01001=1001?

Some functions may need a logic low to become active. Normally open switches and things like that. Each bit in the register maybe doing a different function. Binary numbers are not just data addresses. We use bit codes to drive some machines.

I would have thought digital to analog converters would need the full data string as well.

Anyway the key numbers are 

1351422

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