Headliners 2015

[Bonneville88]

I've got a lot of time for Swifty but she's no headliner. Maybe at t4 on the beach.

[Bradders]

I've been very high in my time but I've never said I "want the coons out". Forgiving someone for being openly racist because they've had some cocaine is a more than questionable stance.

In what way can the statement "Kanye West is critically acclaimed" be proven better than posting some critical acclaim?

A lot of stupidity and attitudes I don't like in this thread tonight.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

I've got a lot of time for Swifty but she's no headliner. Maybe at t4 on the beach.

T4OTB went under four years ago sadly or I'd be there in a heartbeat

EDIT: actually just found out that the headliners for the last two years it was held were Rizzle Kicks and N-Dubz so no, no I would not.

Edited April 14, 2015 by Zac Quinn

[LondonTom]

"Acts X & Y are only commercially successful!"

*Provides proof to the contrary*

"Critical acclaim means nothing! Critics are stupid, and they have cooties."

Its Kanye/T Swizle fans who seem rather obsessed with critical acclaim and sales, just don't seem to like it being compared to Bieber. (But the festival should be open to any genre/acts as long as Pitchfork approved )

[kalifire]

Swift and West acclaimed. Hahaha

Please demonstrate how I got that wrong. Yeezus was hugely critically acclaimed on its release, and Swift has also been critically praised. Neither may be your cup of tea, but you're making things up to pretend that they haven't both found critical acclaim.

[The Placid Casual]

T4OTB went under four years ago sadly or I'd be there in a heartbeat

EDIT: actually just found out that the headliners for the last two years it was held were Rizzle Kicks and N-Dubz so no, no I would not.

They should call you the efestivals Neuer with saves like that.

[kalifire]

Its Kanye/T Swizle fans who seem rather obsessed with critical acclaim and sales, just don't seem to like it being compared to Bieber.

Why would you compare either to Beiber, of all people? Doing so just makes you look stupid. I'm not at all 'obsessed' with critical acclaim - I've mentioned it a grand total of one time, then defended the assertion when somebody answered to suggest I'd got it wrong (I didn't).

Your only tenuous link is that Beiber is popular, but that's not the point I made and even if it was, it strikes me as obvious that there is a giant leap in quality between him and Kanye/Swift. You might not think so and that's fine, I couldn't care less, but I'll disagree that you can conflate any two artists who are popular simply on the basis of their popularity. If that's your argument, you could say the same for literally any act that's popular, including anyone you like who falls into that category too.

Edited April 14, 2015 by kalifire

[DomDom1984]

I'm no fan of Kanye btw. But it does need to be called out when someone just talks flat out shit. And saying that they're not acclaimed is just that.

[kalifire]

Having said all that, I'll concede that we're now discussing who is better according to music journos none of us probably have much time for - Kanye West or Justin Bieber. And for that I'm sorry. I guess it's time to admit it. This thread has broken me. I am a broken man.

An announcement is my only cure.

[jonodillieono]

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/

[DJL]

Yeah i was going to wade in on this arguement to support the critical acclaim of TS and, particularly, Kanye but most of it's already all been said. I don't particularly Iike either of them but kanye's albums regularly top best of the year critic lists (and polls of critics lists) over artists who most would describe as hugely critically acclaimed. Comparing them to bieber on this point is ridiculous.

Yes critical acclaim means little but to prove a point you can argue the same about popularity (One Direction), sales (Mumfords), high grossing tours (Bon Jovi), regular headline slots at other fests (Kasabian), history with Glastonbury (Florence) etc. etc.

The only thing many people really care about a headliner is whether they fit with their own taste - which is entirely subjective.

Edited April 14, 2015 by DJL

[jackarmy]

Not sure if it's been mentioned at all in the last two days, but this month's copy of Mojo has a pretty extensive interview with Blur, and one of the first thing Damon talks about is how that Gorillaz set is one of his biggest musical regrets:

"Why didn't I communicate with the audience when I played Glastonbury with Gorillaz? Why didn't I communicate with the audience, at all? I regret that because it would have been a different outcome if I had."

Sounds like Damon may feel he has a bit of unfinished business with Glastonbury headline slots...

[sime]

Woo. 1 day to go till some sort of announcement is made (possibly...!)

[FuzzyDunlop]

Since reading Kanye and Swift were announced (and rumoured). I have listened to quite a few of their tunes.

Kanye - isn't quite what I thought he was. His style isn't to my particular taste, but I can see why people like him. Apparently he is the producer for his tunes and it's on that score I give him top marks. Lyrically he doesn't quite hit the spot for me (that often, because on occaision he does) - I'm not a fan of his voice either, but production wise I think his tunes are often great. If there was less Kanye in them, I'd really like them (that is is a backhanded compliment, but Im trying to say he is great producer!).

He is though far better than I gave him previous credit for. I can see why he gets the acclaim.

Swift - I'm sorry, but I don't see what elevates her above Katy Perry, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, One Direction or any other modern generic pop act. I understand why if you like Katy Perry etc that you would like her, but there is a hipster following for her that I don't understand. If she is critically acclaimed, I cannot understand why.

Edited April 14, 2015 by FuzzyDunlop

[Spindles]

I can forgive Albarn for his lack of crowd interaction that night due to the fact that he was clearly trying to be part of the band, not the big star and their gigs have a very strong formula based very much around that. It did kill the atmosphere though, along with the false start, several long dark pauses between tracks and a crowd that just didn't care for what they were seeing. I really went there hoping for something special, but even as a fan who loved the current album the show was built around I walked away disappointed.

[Spindles]

Swift - I'm sorry, but I don't see what elevates her above Katy Perry, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, One Direction or any other modern generic pop act. I understand why if you like Katy Perry etc that you would like her, but there is a hipster following for her that I don't understand. If she is critically acclaimed, I cannot understand why.

This. At first I thought that people were just being ironic when they said they liked Taylor Swift, as it appears to be music marketed at people who have to go gigs with their parents. It sounds (to me) like all the other manufactured pap pop out there that meaninglessly passes me by on the rare occasion I'd be somewhere Radio 1 plays. When it dawned on me in this thread that people were serious I just couldn't understand why. I still don't.

[Cockney_Jesus]

Not sure if it's been mentioned at all in the last two days, but this month's copy of Mojo has a pretty extensive interview with Blur, and one of the first thing Damon talks about is how that Gorillaz set is one of his biggest musical regrets:

"Why didn't I communicate with the audience when I played Glastonbury with Gorillaz? Why didn't I communicate with the audience, at all? I regret that because it would have been a different outcome if I had."

Sounds like Damon may feel he has a bit of unfinished business with Glastonbury headline slots...

I really do hope they get another chance when their next album comes out. I saw them at the O2 Arena later in the year and they were phenomenal, completely different to the Glastonbury set.

[RedGlover]

Despite knowing the Diner had announced yesterday... I woke up, saw all of the red confirmations on the efestivals lineup page, and for a split second thought the lineup had come out. Skipped a beat.

It's getting desperate!

[russycarps]

I can forgive Albarn for his lack of crowd interaction that night due to the fact that he was clearly trying to be part of the band, not the big star and their gigs have a very strong formula based very much around that. It did kill the atmosphere though, along with the false start, several long dark pauses between tracks and a crowd that just didn't care for what they were seeing. I really went there hoping for something special, but even as a fan who loved the current album the show was built around I walked away disappointed.

I heard the flaming lips set was being played in a monitor just off stage on the pyramid and he kept getting distracted by it, realising that he was being blown away by a sensational set.

[Perks]

Swift - I'm sorry, but I don't see what elevates her above Katy Perry, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, One Direction or any other modern generic pop act. I understand why if you like Katy Perry etc that you would like her, but there is a hipster following for her that I don't understand. If she is critically acclaimed, I cannot understand why.

This, totally this, been wanting to say something like this for ages on here when she was being seriously talked about, but didnt know how to say it without being offensive, so I just said nothing. But you've put it beautifully. I honestly cant understand why she was even being discussed as a headliner.

[Andy0808 v5]

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/kanye-west-gig-stopped-after-rapper-attempts-to-walk-on-waterjumps-in-lake-followed-by-fans-31138472.html

One less stunt to worry about, although I can see him hurting himself on the pyramid.

[Bonneville88]

Pretty much agree with the above. I just thought it took more than critical acclaim, which can clearly be gained with little talent, to play Glasto but I'm new to it and maybe completely wrong.

[paulmuchmore]

It's a shame that by all accounts that Gorillaz had a duff set at Glastonbury. They had a really tough task in filling in for U2. I wasn't there, but I saw them a few weeks later at Benicassim and loved their performance - maybe it just didn't click that night at Glasto? And perhaps the crowd I saw them in were a bit more receptive to their music.

[suzie sue]

Yes the crowd were shite, chatting throughout.

Was fab to see Lou reed live though and the visuals were great

[COPG]

Yes the crowd were shite, chatting throughout.

Was fab to see Lou reed live though and the visuals were great

The crowd started off really happy for that, If i remember right they were subbed by Vampire Weekend, Snoop and Dizzee Rascal, who wouldn't be upbeat after that?

The false start definitely didn't help, relying on guest appearances too heavily (did half the crowd know who Mark E was?) and saving your best 2 songs for last were all bad ideas too. A bit of Feel Good Inc or CLint Eastwood earlier on would have helped. I think the bit where most people around me cleared off was the bit when the people came out to play bongos and traditional instruments.