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1 minute ago, judyblue110 said:

 

 

A festival with no corporate sponsors that wasn't televised anywhere? Yeah great point you're making there.

 

My error if that's the case, I imagined it would have been the same as the other big US festivals with corporate shite all over the place. 

 

I clearly should have done my own research, classic Internet error.

 

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36 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

 

Stinks that he drops Glastonbury because "too corporate" when he's played festivals like this. 


 

 

You mean he played the highest grossing event ever? How dare  he. they paid him and the fest didnt have any  corpo signage or livestream, win win. Sorry.

 

 

Sabrina or Charli getting calls now

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I think Glastonbury has become such a behemoth, it needs the BBC to survive in its current guise, if they want to continue paying below the odds to acts, giving so much money to charity and (although people will not agree they are cheap) keep the ticket prices down to a reasonable level.

 

The amount of corporate sponsorship has been there for a while, but it's almost by stealth. There's no "X Presents" or "Pepsi Stage" but we all see Vodafone, The Guardian, Carlsberg, Whiteclaw etc. 

 

It is one of the least obviously corporate large festivals there is, but it needs it to survive.

 

I'm absolutely gutted about him dropping out. There's no-one for me that could fill the hole he's left. 

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6 minutes ago, Superscally said:

Crazier things have happened...

Actually, f**k it. Pet Shop Boys.

Or Nick Cave.

 


I think the likely option is Charli XCX gets bumped up and someone with more of a nostalgic feel headlines the other. 
 

For my two pence that’ll be Duran Duran or Pulp. 

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31 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

 

My error if that's the case, I imagined it would have been the same as the other big US festivals with corporate shite all over the place. 

 

I clearly should have done my own research, classic Internet error.

 

 

Looking at the line up, it's a fair assumption. 

 

It was certainly expensive, but again, looking at the line-up, you'd expect that.

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I reckon it’s to do with what songs they wanted him to play - e.g. maybe he was like ‘i’m not playing 3 recognisable covers’ 

 

i think this is the right decision to be honest - I don’t know if he would have pulled anywhere near a big enough crowd for the pyramid stage.

 

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59 minutes ago, K2SO said:

I'm absolutely convinced Charli XCX has been booked as an act that could step up to headline. Make the call, Emily!


The 1975 - Charli xcx - Olivia Rodrigo very Radio 1 Big Weekend that. There needs to be a counter balance otherwise that looks very weak and pop heavy

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Charli is an odd one. Big act for sure, no doubt about that, but she’s not even sold out the new Lido festival in London which is only around 25-30k so not sure she has the massive pulling power needed for a pyramid headline 

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37 minutes ago, TheSheriff said:


The 1975 - Charli xcx - Olivia Rodrigo very Radio 1 Big Weekend that. There needs to be a counter balance otherwise that looks very weak and pop heavy

 

Were entering a bit of a ‘pop/hyper-pop’ era though, the festival has always moved with the times, you wouldn’t have seen people complaining about too many brit-pop artists in the 00’s, or too much techno in the 90’s

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1 minute ago, mike46 said:

Charli is an odd one. Big act for sure, no doubt about that, but she’s not even sold out the new Lido festival in London which is only around 25-30k so not sure she has the massive pulling power needed for a pyramid headline 


She could surely headline based off current cultural significance alone though? Plus her set on The Levels last year was incredibly busy

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Just now, Jack.194 said:


She could surely headline based off current cultural significance alone though? Plus her set on The Levels last year was incredibly busy


oh definitely, not saying she can’t headline or doesn’t deserve it, I’d be there for sure. Just feels odd that she’s everywhere at the moment but still can’t sell out what is effectively a half-sized  All Points East… then again, that could well be a London festival thing 

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It's interesting that this implies televising headliner sets and having to agree to other broadcaster demands is a contractual non-negotiable, these days. I'm pretty sure it never used to be such a red line, which gives Neil Young a bit of a point (albeit undermined by him playing other very corporate-y festivals). Either that or it isn't a red line, and they just didn't consider Neil to be worth the faff of hardball negotiations on specifics. As always, to be a fly on the wall...

 

 

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56 minutes ago, mike46 said:


oh definitely, not saying she can’t headline or doesn’t deserve it, I’d be there for sure. Just feels odd that she’s everywhere at the moment but still can’t sell out what is effectively a half-sized  All Points East… then again, that could well be a London festival thing 

 

I think this is a mix of a bunch of things - That festival went on sale just before the UK Brat arena tour kicked off, and it's knocking on to £90 a ticket, in a summer where you have Dua Lipa and Lana Del Rey both playing huge gigs... All the while, people are waiting on a Beyonce tour.

 

I don't think it's due to a lack of Charli popularity, but more a case of punters being careful with where they put their money

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5 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

I think Glastonbury has become such a behemoth, it needs the BBC to survive in its current guise, if they want to continue paying below the odds to acts, giving so much money to charity and (although people will not agree they are cheap) keep the ticket prices down to a reasonable level.

 

The amount of corporate sponsorship has been there for a while, but it's almost by stealth. There's no "X Presents" or "Pepsi Stage" but we all see Vodafone, The Guardian, Carlsberg, Whiteclaw etc. 

 

It is one of the least obviously corporate large festivals there is, but it needs it to survive.

 

I'm absolutely gutted about him dropping out. There's no-one for me that could fill the hole he's left. 


 

the stealth is because its useful. Charging your phone, mobile reception, logistics stuff is how nobody notices. Cant have a barclay card vip area and such or else they think you lost the plot.

 

and again, they price it to barely keep the lights on and arent willing to create new revenue streams which will pay dividends in the future. 

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