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12 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

oh ffs, the discord is full of people like roughbloke and brave sir robin who posted info here with essentially full accuracy for years. Just cause it's posted in a different place, doesn't make it less true. You're in denial. 


Maybe because a minority in discord also indulge in orchestrated wind-up operations when it comes to efests. It doesn’t exactly lend credibility to the community when you have to remember that the discord community contains bad (and very boring) actors. 

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2 minutes ago, kalifire said:


Maybe because a minority in discord also indulge in orchestrated wind-up operations when it comes to efests. It doesn’t exactly lend credibility to the community when you have to remember that the discord community contains bad (and very boring) actors. 

Absolutely not doubting there's some wee fannies in there who used to troll here. But the Neil Young info comes from someone who leaked fred again at strummerville last year and I know you know Roughboke and BSR are solid sources. You're conflating 2 different things. 

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4 minutes ago, Little Thief said:

Using a % scale, where are we at with the following Pyramid headliner rumours in terms of certainty/reliability? I’m completely lost haha!

 

Taylor Swift

Neil Young

Olivia Rodrigo

Stevie Wonder

Sam Fender

Fred Again

The 1975

My guess (top most likely)

 

Olivia Rodrigo

The 1975

Stevie Wonder

Fred Again

Neil Young

Sam Fender

Taylor Swift

 

......which of course as I know nothing, it's probably a reverse of this order....

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6 minutes ago, kalifire said:


Maybe because a minority in discord also indulge in orchestrated wind-up operations when it comes to efests. It doesn’t exactly lend credibility to the community when you have to remember that the discord community contains bad (and very boring) actors. 

That may be the case but the line up rumours aren't being posted on here at the moment so there is no wind up intended. It is all on their site and is stuff they believe. There is no reason to believe their sources are unreliable.

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3 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said:

That may be the case but the line up rumours aren't being posted on here at the moment so there is no wind up intended. It is all on their site and is stuff they believe. There is no reason to believe their sources are unreliable.


The only way that’s true is if the source is the individual, not the platform. If it’s just the platform, a large dose of salt needs to be taken.

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4 minutes ago, kalifire said:


The only way that’s true is if the source is the individual, not the platform. If it’s just the platform, a large dose of salt needs to be taken.

👍Absolutely and I take any line up rumours with a large dose of salt until it's confirmed. For what it's worth, I believe anecdotally that they list their rumours with a source attached and as stated above they are familiar names that once gave us the same rumours.

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18 minutes ago, Little Thief said:

Using a % scale, where are we at with the following Pyramid headliner rumours in terms of certainty/reliability? I’m completely lost haha!

 

Taylor Swift

Neil Young

Olivia Rodrigo

Stevie Wonder

Sam Fender

Fred Again

The 1975

 

Taylor Swift 0%

Neil Young 10%

Olivia Rodrigo 80%

Stevie Wonder 20%

Sam Fender 30%

Fred Again 20%

The 1975 50%
 

And I'm pretty sure Charli xcx is going to be there, but I don't know if she'll be headlining the Pyramid or the Other.

 

Source: my own opinion lmao 

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23 minutes ago, Little Thief said:

Using a % scale, where are we at with the following Pyramid headliner rumours in terms of certainty/reliability? I’m completely lost haha!

 

Taylor Swift

Neil Young

Olivia Rodrigo

Stevie Wonder

Sam Fender

Fred Again

The 1975

 

Taylor Swift 0%

Neil Young 60%

Olivia Rodrigo 99%

Stevie Wonder 5%

Sam Fender 0%

Fred Again 10%

The 1975 75%

 

Source - brown, mustard for a change.

 

 

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1 minute ago, kalifire said:


it’s irrelevant if the platform is cited rather than the individual source. 

Me saying the name isn't going to make a bit of difference to you imo. I've described their credentials, I don't really care if you believe them. Disbelieving good sources is partly how this place lost so many in the know users. Do you remember Guns n Roses and roughbloke? The main reason people come on here is to see who is playing before it is announced and the site is offering little in the way of that currently. And any attempt to move discussion towards the latest rumours is shot down instantly. 

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8 minutes ago, RosaAG said:

 

Taylor Swift 0%

Neil Young 10%

Olivia Rodrigo 80%

Stevie Wonder 20%

Sam Fender 30%

Fred Again 20%

The 1975 50%
 

And I'm pretty sure Charli xcx is going to be there, but I don't know if she'll be headlining the Pyramid or the Other.

 

Source: my own opinion lmao 

Can we see the maths?

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10 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Me saying the name isn't going to make a bit of difference to you imo. I've described their credentials, I don't really care if you believe them. Disbelieving good sources is partly how this place lost so many in the know users. Do you remember Guns n Roses and roughbloke? The main reason people come on here is to see who is playing before it is announced and the site is offering little in the way of that currently. And any attempt to move discussion towards the latest rumours is shot down instantly. 


Disbelieving good sources didn’t have anything to do with how eFests lost in-the-know members. That was due to the previous owner, and I’m pretty sure we agree on that.

 

I’m aware who the knowledgeable posters used to be here and if they post elsewhere now, good for that community. They’ll be missed here and I hope they return.
 

But I disagree that the primary reason people are here is to get ahead of announcements. I think people post (or lurk) to be part of a community; to get exited, and to enjoy the hype. The idea that it’s all about inside info is a bit dated. People just want to feel part of if, imo.  

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7 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Me saying the name isn't going to make a bit of difference to you imo. I've described their credentials, I don't really care if you believe them. Disbelieving good sources is partly how this place lost so many in the know users. Do you remember Guns n Roses and roughbloke? The main reason people come on here is to see who is playing before it is announced and the site is offering little in the way of that currently. And any attempt to move discussion towards the latest rumours is shot down instantly. 

he's just bitter 

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54 minutes ago, kalifire said:


At this stage, some folk are throwing anything at the wall (some doing so to deliberately try and create online feuds between communities). It’s a tedious rumour mill unless you know which sources are worth ignoring 👍

All of the sources generally have a traffic light rating of how likely it looks and it even says who its come from. Far more transparent than the lineup page on here.

 

45 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

It's painful watching this place be like a fortnight behind proceedings cause it is generally a better place for discussion and then when the info is presented here it is immediately dismissed by some donkeys cause it came from the discord. The discord isn't  a sentient being, it's a bunch of people some of which are in the know and would probs still post here if it wasn't for the  former owner.

 

For example rod stewart legend slot was known for ages over there. 

Bang on - its a right pain making sure you don't leak stuff across too!

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3 minutes ago, gfa said:

All of the sources generally have a traffic light rating of how likely it looks and it even says who its come from. Far more transparent than the lineup page on here.

 

Bang on - its a right pain making sure you don't leak stuff across too!

So is the discord specifically glastonbury chat?

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Info on The 1975 came from that way too, did it not? Kind of marveling that, with all these big names bandied around - Rihanna, then Stevie Wonder, then Taylor Swift, now Neil Young - they appear to have taken Fred again's slot and held onto it in the merry-go-round.

 

Perhaps them being British has something to do with it. Know there have been years without a homegrown headliner, or attempts at least, but it is very rare.

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I get it, but does this thread really need to descend into (another) pissing context between efests and discord? Compare rumours, sure. But the history doesn't need to come up again.

 

General comment, no dig at anyone.  Easiest to agree to disagree or whatever.

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3 minutes ago, gfa said:

All of the sources generally have a traffic light rating of how likely it looks and it even says who its come from. Far more transparent than the lineup page on here.

 

Bang on - its a right pain making sure you don't leak stuff across too!

doesnt matter when the info comes or where I find the whole we know better thing  really odd , when there are posters on both sites that are very knowledgeable whats with the secrecy ? many people post of both sites and see the information anyway ... its not a secret society that you pledge a vow of allegiance is it ? personally not bothered about any delays in info coming across but others might like it the exact same time ... will get here at some point anyway thats the nature of the World Wide Web and large Glastonbury communities . Hopefully people have moved on enough for secrets now 

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11 minutes ago, kalifire said:

But I disagree that the primary reason people are here is to get ahead of announcements.

it's a massive reason why people used to be here. Maybe not anymore because I think the only decent source I can see posting is @mufcok. trust me, people want to know who is headlining in advance I can guarantee that. 

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