news & politics:discussion

[Ryan1984]

10 minutes ago, Homer said:

I just saw a tweet - Does anyone have a violin small enough for them?

[Ozanne]

19 minutes ago, Homer said:

You have got to be kidding me? Fuck sake.

Turkeys voting for Christmas.

[Ryan1984]

I’ve seen so much about Bristol today but not a lot about this. Can’t think why... (sorry for Scum link)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14475004/bradford-protests-lockdown-covid-coronavirus-clash-cops/

[Homer]

More on that story here:
 

 

[zahidf]

 

[zahidf]

27 minutes ago, Homer said:

More on that story here:
 

 

Well well well.  If it isn't the consequences of my own actions.

Edited March 27, 2021 by zahidf

[maelzoid]

"....although long term I think the Spanish will regret chucking us out of Spain”

Methinks not.

[eFestivals]

10 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

"....although long term I think the Spanish will regret chucking us out of Spain”

Methinks not.

They need us more than we need them. Lol

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, maelzoid said:

"....although long term I think the Spanish will regret chucking us out of Spain”

Methinks not.

That's incredible. The entitlement is insane 

[SheffJeff]

Saw this before and it tickled me... most likely cos I'm drunk and should really be at the pub.

[squirrelarmy]

On 3/26/2021 at 6:31 PM, Ozanne said:

 

Judging from the local vibe, Pudsey is unfortunately staying Tory. There are a lot of people who will be hard to convince to turn red. 

[steviewevie]

 

[philipsteak]

It's all kicking off in Bath

 

[maelzoid]

1 hour ago, philipsteak said:

It's all kicking off in Bath

 

This is great.

Bath is a city of over 80,000 people. It doesn’t have a police station.

[Ozanne]

 

 

[eFestivals]

25 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

Splittersother thansalmond is there a biggus dickus

[Ozanne]

7 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

 

Splittersother thansalmond is there a biggus dickus

Does this help the Tories more in Scotland?

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Does this help the Tories more in Scotland?

Only if toy scottish voters aren't keen on sex pests

[Ozanne]

I mean in general for electoral hopes this seems to split the Indy vote and benefit the Tories?

[mcshed]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I mean in general for electoral hopes this seems to split the Indy vote and benefit the Tories?

At Holyrood Alba aren't standing in the constituencies so they can't split the vote there and because the SNP do so well in the constituencies they don't get much from the lists anyway so they aren't likely to loose more than a couple of MSPs. 

The Greens as the other pro-Indy party that do well on the lists will be most affected. 

The MPs who have jumped ship are both in seats where it's Labour in second place so if they were to stand again and split the Indy vote it'd be Labour who gained not the Tories.

So no it doesn't significantly help the Tories, in fact the recent SNP slump in the polls due to the Salmond/Sturgeon scandal has seen Labour move back into second place above the Tories as those turned off the SNP by my are more likely to be Labour than Tory.

In short it could help independence by gaming the system and it's more likely to help Labour than the Tories, it's shit for the Greens.

[Ozanne]

5 minutes ago, mcshed said:

At Holyrood Alba aren't standing in the constituencies so they can't split the vote there and because the SNP do so well in the constituencies they don't get much from the lists anyway so they aren't likely to loose more than a couple of MSPs. 

The Greens as the other pro-Indy party that do well on the lists will be most affected. 

The MPs who have jumped ship are both in seats where it's Labour in second place so if they were to stand again and split the Indy vote it'd be Labour who gained not the Tories.

So no it doesn't significantly help the Tories, in fact the recent SNP slump in the polls due to the Salmond/Sturgeon scandal has seen Labour move back into second place above the Tories as those turned off the SNP by my are more likely to be Labour than Tory.

In short it could help independence by gaming the system and it's more likely to help Labour than the Tories, it's shit for the Greens.

Thanks for going through it. As someone that just wants the Tories out of government I'm not sure how to feel about it all, ideally I'd like the UK to stay together though.

[eFestivals]

33 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I mean in general for electoral hopes this seems to split the Indy vote and benefit the Tories?

Scottidsh nats benefitting the tories thars never happened before. Its a eregular. 

[kalifire]

Bath is my closest city to home when I'm in the UK, and that looks like a protest I could join.

My sign would be "this issue is too nuanced for a sign but overall I'm not that happy"

[mcshed]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

Thanks for going through it. As someone that just wants the Tories out of government I'm not sure how to feel about it all, ideally I'd like the UK to stay together though.

Anything damaging to the SNP helps Labour in Scotland and Labour's recovery in Scotland is pretty essential for Labour's success at a UK level.

My take on it as a Scottish Labour member is that Salmond/Sturgeon fighting is good, Salmond's mere presence is good as it reminds people of the awful behaviour that the SNP ignored for years. 

However the Independence movement at large getting used to gaming the top up system is very bad and undemocratic.

[steviewevie]

Times reporting that Starmer going to replace Dodds with Reeves.