U.S. Presidential Election

[ShakeyCrash]

People are pandering to him. Letting it play out and are hoping it all falls apart and that they are not the ones that have to break the news. He’s not a rationale person (i think he believes he has been cheated) and will go to the ends of the world to destroy people. It’s how shit like this happens. The good news is that he isn’t overwhelmingly popular because if he were shit would get dangerous.

[Matt42]

His inner team know it’s over so they are trying to play as dirty as they can.

[steviewevie]

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Edited November 13, 2020 by steviewevie
Wrong thread!

[danbailey80]

Bit sure why AI haven't called Arizona. Theres only a small suburb left and Biden is about 11k ahead. 

[mufcok]

I haven't kept up to date with this so apologies if this has been discussed, what's the deal with Democrats getting control of the senate? Think I read something about a January election involving Georgia?

[DeanoL]

13 hours ago, FloorFiller said:

There’s zero chance he can do anything that would actually overturn the election.

Word from inside the White House now seems to be suggesting that he and the GOP are well aware it’s over and that this is all theatre and basically just an attempt to shake shit up one last time before he leaves, which would all be fine if it wasn’t gonna get people hurt due to his base trying to fight his fight for him.

He's still running the agreed playbook for if he lost by a narrow margin. If Biden was only ahead by a couple of electoral college votes, you can dispute the result in one state, and use that to flip five faithless electors and you can win. But he'd need to flip so many at this point it's just not practical.

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, mufcok said:

I haven't kept up to date with this so apologies if this has been discussed, what's the deal with Democrats getting control of the senate? Think I read something about a January election involving Georgia?

there's two (I think) run-offs in January, which gets control if the dems win them.

[mufcok]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

there's two (I think) run-offs in January, which gets control if the dems win them.

👍 Pretty important then I guess, that they get that!

[squirrelarmy]

5 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

use that to flip five faithless electors and you can win

If this happens then surely that’s sending America towards civil war. They are obsessed with fair democracy. 
 

Is there any historical precedent of the electoral college going against the will of the people?

[jump]

3 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

If this happens then surely that’s sending America towards civil war. They are obsessed with fair democracy. 
 

Is there any historical precedent of the electoral college going against the will of the people?

It's happened 163 times for induvial votes in US history. It varies state to state but you can get a lengthy jail sentence for doing this.

Edited November 13, 2020 by jump

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

there's two (I think) run-offs in January, which gets control if the dems win them.

You are correct, there’s 2 run off in GA in Jan. However I think it only then leads to a tied Senate with the VP acting then as the decider. So technically no one would have control of the Senate but in actuality the Dems should.

[squirrelarmy]

3 minutes ago, jump said:

It's happened 163 times for induvial votes in US history. It varies state to state but you can get a lengthy jail sentence for doing this.

If you flip a state and decide to keep Trump then that’s a guaranteed pardon from the President. 

[eFestivals]

9 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

If you flip a state and decide to keep Trump then that’s a guaranteed pardon from the President. 

it's probably a state offence, which the Pres can't pardon.

[jparx]

Joey joe on track for 306! CNN have called AZ.

[squirrelarmy]

8 minutes ago, jparx said:

Joey joe on track for 306! CNN have called AZ.

Just need PA to get past 1% and then there’s no point having the recounts in the other states. 
 

Not that it will stop Trump demanding a recount, it just wastes more time and Republicans money. 

[balthazarstarbuck]

8 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Not that it will stop Trump demanding a recount, it just wastes more time and Republicans money. 

Won’t there be a risk of missing certification deadlines then (risking state legislatures deciding)?

Georgia with its hand count (then most likely another count after that) is concerning me.

[Copperface]

49 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Just need PA to get past 1% and then there’s no point having the recounts in the other states. 
 

Not that it will stop Trump demanding a recount, it just wastes more time and Republicans money. 

Saw earlier that PA had just received a new batch of 4400 ballots. 350 odd for Trump and 4000 odd for Biden

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by Copperface

[squirrelarmy]

15 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Saw earlier that PA had just received a new batch of 4400 ballots. 350 odd for Trump and 4000 odd for Biden. 😀

Won’t be long till it’s beyond the recount margin. Currently at about 0.8% 

[Cherry Tree]

I wonder if he is delaying the transition phase allowing Biden’s team access to intelligence, as he still has a few bodies to bury.

[onthebeach]

The graphics on this thread have calmed my nerves a bit ....

 

 

[balthazarstarbuck]

3 minutes ago, onthebeach said:

The graphics on this thread have calmed my nerves a bit ....

 

 

Out of ups but needed that, thank you.

[onthebeach]

15 minutes ago, balthazarstarbuck said:

Out of ups but needed that, thank you.

You are more than welcome - I thought it explained the process very well and it looks though the ‘checks and balances’ are in place

[shoptildrop]

looks like lawyers had enough or don't want to continue on the joke of a lawsuit

 

[jparx]

2 minutes ago, shoptildrop said:

looks like lawyers had enough or don't want to continue on the joke of a lawsuit

 

That's it then. I think we'll get a speech from Trump at some point in the next couple days saying "I won't legally fight the election, but it's clear it was rigged"

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jparx said:

That's it then. I think we'll get a speech from Trump at some point in the next couple days saying "I won't legally fight the election, but it's clear it was rigged"

I don’t think anything like that will be until after the recounts.