gooner1990 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just listened to this at work.....was a great set to end a great Glastonbury. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZigster Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, gooner1990 said: Just listened to this at work.....was a great set to end a great Glastonbury. 🙂 Ooh yes, that was indeed memorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Will the BBC losing the licence fee have a huge impact on the festival? Hard to call if they are going to be making budget cuts going forward. It’s one of the biggest events of the summer for them and probably gains a lot of viewers so I can’t see the BBC pulling out too much. But it’s interesting if they are on a bit of a backfoot budget wise? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/16/bbc-licence-fee-to-be-abolished-in-2027-and-funding-frozen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Will the BBC losing the licence fee have a huge impact on the festival? Hard to call if they are going to be making budget cuts going forward. It’s one of the biggest events of the summer for them and probably gains a lot of viewers so I can’t see the BBC pulling out too much. But it’s interesting if they are on a bit of a backfoot budget wise? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/16/bbc-licence-fee-to-be-abolished-in-2027-and-funding-frozen Probably will depend on money making potential from it. How much, if anything, does the BBC make selling its Glastonbury content to other countries? In related news, Nadine Dorries can fuck right off. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gnomicide said: Probably will depend on money making potential from it. How much, if anything, does the BBC make selling its Glastonbury content to other countries? In related news, Nadine Dorries can fuck right off. Nadine Dorries imo is part of the Lizz Truss, Rishi Sunak clan of basically creating a country in weatherspoons own image. It would be interesting to see if the footage makes money being sold. Could they integrate it with their Britbox services and sell the media rights for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghandi Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Wanted to see Michael Kiwanakus set from the Park in 2019, as i was at the Pyramid. Saw it after on BBC highlights but since thwn its been deleted and not on you tube. A great rendition of ' Rule the world'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Will the BBC losing the licence fee have a huge impact on the festival? Hard to call if they are going to be making budget cuts going forward. It’s one of the biggest events of the summer for them and probably gains a lot of viewers so I can’t see the BBC pulling out too much. But it’s interesting if they are on a bit of a backfoot budget wise? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/16/bbc-licence-fee-to-be-abolished-in-2027-and-funding-frozen Coverage would certainly change. Can't see anyone else wanting such extensive coverage. First two stages but other sets from Park, JP, West Holts, acoustic would probably drop off to maybe only a headliner if at all. BBC introducing tent would probably be under serious threat (tbh probably already is if the fee is frozen and they need to find 2 billion of cuts). Are there any festivals in other countries without a licence fee that have extensive tv coverage? Isn't Coachella just the main stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leyrulion said: Coverage would certainly change. Can't see anyone else wanting such extensive coverage. First two stages but other sets from Park, JP, West Holts, acoustic would probably drop off to maybe only a headliner if at all. BBC introducing tent would probably be under serious threat (tbh probably already is if the fee is frozen and they need to find 2 billion of cuts). Are there any festivals in other countries without a licence fee that have extensive tv coverage? Isn't Coachella just the main stage? Coachella is the full thing (main stage, and the stages where big acts play - not dance tents) but I think it’s in partnership with some pretty big companies + sponsors. I’m not too sure the big European festivals attract the same corporate attention. Glastonbury would but I think it’s unlikely to expect that much commercialism from them. Do you reckon it may be similar to R&L in that a handful of acts are shown and the rest are online / for Social media channel purposes? Edited January 16, 2022 by Matt42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Coachella is the full thing (main stage, and the stages where big acts play - not dance tents) but I think it’s in partnership with some pretty big companies + sponsors. I’m not too sure the big European festivals attract the same corporate attention. Glastonbury would but I think it’s unlikely to expect that much commercialism from them. Do you reckon it may be similar to R&L in that a handful of acts are shown and the rest are online / for Social media channel purposes? It's a huge unknown, if the conservatives really do want to move the BBC to funding it self through commercialisation then they're going to have to explore all options. If there's demand for it then they'll do it but expect to pay extra for it. Might get a curated evening highlights show for two hours and any thing else could be: "Glastonbury Weekend Pass; watch all sets live, only 7.99, Upgrade now to the Glastonbury Ultimate Pass and watch live or on demand for 30 days, only 11.99" "Add on the legends package and have on demand access to previous Glastonbury sets, 4.99" Edited January 16, 2022 by Leyrulion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannybruck Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 If they cut things down, lack of reach will also affect the sort of bookings they get. Persuading a mid-level US act, say, to do a Glasto set for a pittance is fine when they can almost guarantee it'll have some sort of viewership on either TV or youtube (depending how valuable said act thinks those are) but if it's not filmed or behind a paywall there's no chance they would schlep to Somerset when they could get 10 grand at a mainland EU fest that weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt42 said: Will the BBC losing the licence fee have a huge impact on the festival? Hard to call if they are going to be making budget cuts going forward. It’s one of the biggest events of the summer for them and probably gains a lot of viewers so I can’t see the BBC pulling out too much. But it’s interesting if they are on a bit of a backfoot budget wise? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/16/bbc-licence-fee-to-be-abolished-in-2027-and-funding-frozen Doubt it. The festival doesn’t make a huge amount directly from the BBC. Michael has said in the past he’s turned down far more lucrative offers from Sky because he prefers the festival to be free to air. The bigger question will be whether the Beeb cut back on the coverage themselves, fewer stages covered across fewer outlets. Again unlikely as it’s a big ratings win for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Doubt it. The festival doesn’t make a huge amount directly from the BBC. Michael has said in the past he’s turned down far more lucrative offers from Sky because he prefers the festival to be free to air. The bigger question will be whether the Beeb cut back on the coverage themselves, fewer stages covered across fewer outlets. Again unlikely as it’s a big ratings win for them. Is it a big enough ratings hit to justify spending that much. Without the licence fee it becomes a lot easier for them to quantify exactly what the return on their investment is in Glastonbury. They can expand it reduce accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 If this creates issues for Glastonbury too then all to the good, as far as the tories are concerned. They hate it nearly as much as they hate the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Doubt it. The festival doesn’t make a huge amount directly from the BBC. Michael has said in the past he’s turned down far more lucrative offers from Sky because he prefers the festival to be free to air. The bigger question will be whether the Beeb cut back on the coverage themselves, fewer stages covered across fewer outlets. Again unlikely as it’s a big ratings win for them. It’s definitely worth the money for broadcasting the big bookings as they usually take up prime time TV slots. It’s whether cutting out or not broadcasting at all the smaller bookings will have an impact on the festival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, Leyrulion said: It's a huge unknown, if the conservatives really do want to move the BBC to funding it self through commercialisation then they're going to have to explore all options. If there's demand for it then they'll do it but expect to pay extra for it. Might get a curated evening highlights show for two hours and any thing else could be: "Glastonbury Weekend Pass; watch all sets live, only 7.99, Upgrade now to the Glastonbury Ultimate Pass and watch live or on demand for 30 days, only 11.99" "Add on the legends package and have on demand access to previous Glastonbury sets, 4.99" That is a pretty neat idea. Not sure it gets the requisite exposure to secure big artists that partnering with streaming platforms would, but it does cut out middlemen and brings in the money directly. I do predict that there will be a 'Netflix for concerts' type thing take off in the next few years that will show concerts and festivals all around the world (real ones, not just 'live at home' gigs like in lockdown) which would secure some huge name festivals and tours. Might be a bit homogeneous for Glastonbury though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, dentalplan said: That is a pretty neat idea. Not sure it gets the requisite exposure to secure big artists that partnering with streaming platforms would, but it does cut out middlemen and brings in the money directly. I do predict that there will be a 'Netflix for concerts' type thing take off in the next few years that will show concerts and festivals all around the world (real ones, not just 'live at home' gigs like in lockdown) which would secure some huge name festivals and tours. Might be a bit homogeneous for Glastonbury though. Metaverse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Matt42 said: Metaverse No because those will be virtual concerts. I'm talking about a streaming platform that streams real concerts and festivals for a tidy subscription fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, dentalplan said: No because those will be virtual concerts. I'm talking about a streaming platform that streams real concerts and festivals for a tidy subscription fee. I see. So like a sort of steaming platform for gigs you missed? It’s a neat idea but is there really a huge market for it? We all consumed gigs at home for the past 2 years because we were… well… at home. Now I can actually go to gigs again I would rather spend money to see the band, not the footage. I’m sure some super fans would pay the money for it though. I can imagine this idea would be massive in the KPop world as their fans will buy anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Matt42 said: I see. So like a sort of steaming platform for gigs you missed? It’s a neat idea but is there really a huge market for it? We all consumed gigs at home for the past 2 years because we were… well… at home. Now I can actually go to gigs again I would rather spend money to see the band, not the footage. I’m sure some super fans would pay the money for it though. I can imagine this idea would be massive in the KPop world as their fans will buy anything. Well, the crux of it is that people will not pay a ticket price to see one artist - or they only did because the artist in question was struggling for money in the pandemic - but just like Spotify or Netflix or even Kindle Unlimited, people will pay a subscription fee to a massive, renewing library of content over buying and renting single books, movies, records. Not really for gigs you could have gone to, but for livestreamed festivals and concerts across the world. So like watching Glastonbury if you're in America or Coachella if you're here. Or watching idk Arctic Monkeys play a show you couldn't get tickets for. Whatever. At a subscription level I definitely think there'd be a huge appetite for it and I'm sure some companies are on it right now - they just have to jump in bed with like Live Nation or AEG to do it. I digress anyway. I don't think that's the future for Glastonbury. Hard to really know what the license fee news means for the relationship without any facts and figures in front of us - at a guess it doesn't seem like something that should be that expensive but also it's probably not high value either. Edited January 16, 2022 by dentalplan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 It would depend if the BBC was still a national broadcaster with a cultural remit, I suppose. Otherwise they'd save the cash they'd usually spend on broadcasting the festival and just stick on back to back repeats of Mrs Brown's Boys, which would probably get more viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Glastonbury is included on their sizzle reel which suggests how seriously they take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 43 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Glastonbury is included on their sizzle reel which suggests how seriously they take it. Okay. I don't think anyone would argue that the BBC doesn't take Glastonbury seriously. It's just whether a struggling broadcaster would assign significance to doing Glastonbury (also R1BW, Reading and Leeds, TRNSMT) for a weekend a year if it's at a cost to their regular programming that goes out for a couple of months. We don't know the answer, but that's all anyone might be saying about them reducing coverage or packing it away. It does come down quite significantly on what fatyeti said about its cultural remit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Leyrulion said: "Glastonbury Weekend Pass; watch all sets live, only 7.99, Upgrade now to the Glastonbury Ultimate Pass and watch live or on demand for 30 days, only 11.99" "Add on the legends package and have on demand access to previous Glastonbury sets, 4.99" I seem to recall that under the new BBC-Eurosport shared terms deal that this is how they broadcast the Olympics this year, and I heard a lot of negative comments about the Eurosport side of what was being offered. I'm aware such a thing could be successful but you've got to get it done just right to make it worth paying the extra fees for something that used to be free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 If - for whatever reason - the deal with the Beeb goes Pete Tong then Channel 4 are about the only other people I'd trust with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotdy Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just go back to Channel 4, free to air, plus they can split stages with red button / More4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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