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4 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

I'm not sure how really as most of them have other uses usually? Conference centres, sports etc. Also they might need to look at hiring people rather than relying on volunteers if that's the case. I'm expecting to volunteer as a steward for a bit longer but not forever. I'm sure many are the same. Would have thought it made sense to switch to GP surgeries or something but there probably isn't the capacity.

I guess it just depends on how much protection the vaccines provide over the longer term and they need to look at the data. If only the AZ group needs a booster shot, then probably the scale can be pulled back.

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1 minute ago, balthazarstarbuck said:

Depends on how many we’re looking to do and on how short a space of time.

Worth remembering we deliver around 20 million flu vaccines a year within existing infrastructures. Hoping a lot of that can be used to deliver top-ups.

Yeah you stoll my thunder there.

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It would make sense to combine getting flu and covid shots if possible as many of the most vulnerable groups will get flu jabs routinely. Not sure how realistic that is as think they need to space them out? As in not have too close together. Or has that not really been tested yet?

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2 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It would make sense to combine getting flu and covid shots if possible as many of the most vulnerable groups will get flu jabs routinely. Not sure how realistic that is as think they need to space them out? As in not have too close together. Or has that not really been tested yet?

One of the questions you get asked when booking your Covid vaccine is “have you had a flu jab in the last 7 days?” which says to me there’s either insufficient data or a minor worry about it. It’s only a week though, so hopefully wouldn’t slow things down too much.

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Wonder how many people are just getting the jab so that they can play their part in ending ‘this shit’? 
I would expect a significant drop off in booster jabs from the younger and healthy population if we are back to normal by that stage. 

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Just now, st dan said:

Wonder how many people are just getting the jab so that they can play their part in ending ‘this shit’? 
I would expect a significant drop off in booster jabs from the younger and healthy population if we are back to normal by that stage. 

 

It feels like flair ups in groups of the population is always going to be inevitable at this stage, whether thats in the younger group or in the 'anti vaxxers'.

I was listening a podcast the other day which was more of a finance podcast, but they discussed the economic impact of the virus circulating only in certain groups of the population. While it might not have the same impact as if nobody was vaccinated, it's still something worth looking out for going forward. 

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2 minutes ago, st dan said:

Wonder how many people are just getting the jab so that they can play their part in ending ‘this shit’? 
I would expect a significant drop off in booster jabs from the younger and healthy population if we are back to normal by that stage. 

Hard to say, but plenty of young healthy people have the flu jab if they’re offered it at work, as they don’t want to be incapacitated for a few days. 

Hypotheticals when we’re back to normal is a nice problem to have, but I’d imagine uptake would be at least that of the autumn flu jab.

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15 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It would make sense to combine getting flu and covid shots if possible as many of the most vulnerable groups will get flu jabs routinely. Not sure how realistic that is as think they need to space them out? As in not have too close together. Or has that not really been tested yet?

One of the Oxford team was saying a while back that isn't really a challenge and is old science.  It's more of a case of deciding if that's what we want to do and then clearing any regulation hurdles.

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16 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It would make sense to combine getting flu and covid shots if possible as many of the most vulnerable groups will get flu jabs routinely. Not sure how realistic that is as think they need to space them out? As in not have too close together. Or has that not really been tested yet?

It has beem trialled

 Partner was part of a blind test of combined /10 day gap. Not sure resiults are in yet.

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28 minutes ago, balthazarstarbuck said:

Depends on how many we’re looking to do and on how short a space of time.

Worth remembering we deliver around 20 million flu vaccines a year within existing infrastructures. Hoping a lot of that can be used to deliver top-ups.

 

20 minutes ago, st dan said:

Wonder how many people are just getting the jab so that they can play their part in ending ‘this shit’? 
I would expect a significant drop off in booster jabs from the younger and healthy population if we are back to normal by that stage. 

Pretty much my reason though I still have no expectations of anything actually ending this year. 

They'll make everyone have one - I wouldn't believe any talk of "only for the vulnerable" as they said this originally, yet we're slowly creeping to needing every adult and child vaccinated before we fully lift restrictions...

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34 minutes ago, balthazarstarbuck said:

One of the questions you get asked when booking your Covid vaccine is “have you had a flu jab in the last 7 days?” which says to me there’s either insufficient data or a minor worry about it. It’s only a week though, so hopefully wouldn’t slow things down too much.

Yeah that's actually what I was thinking about.

22 minutes ago, danmarks said:

It has beem trialled

 Partner was part of a blind test of combined /10 day gap. Not sure resiults are in yet.

Thanks!

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  • Hancock confirmed that he does want to replace self-isolation for people who have been in contact with someone testing positive with regular testing. The government was piloting this, he said, and he was taking clinical advice. He went on:

But it’s something that I want to see and we will introduce, subject to clinical advice, as soon as it’s reasonable to do so.

Hancock also stressed that regular testing would not replace self-isolation for people who have tested positive themselves.

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54 minutes ago, st dan said:

Wonder how many people are just getting the jab so that they can play their part in ending ‘this shit’? 
I would expect a significant drop off in booster jabs from the younger and healthy population if we are back to normal by that stage. 

Probably a lot of people, but I imagine they’re also motivated by their desire to protect their family and friends who may be vulnerable also. It was a mix of both factors for me. 
 

The booster jabs may never be offered to younger groups, it’s still unknown. 

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1 hour ago, MrBarry465 said:

So already discussions over a 'booster vaccine' this autumn (I thought vaccines would cover us till at least next year) - is it reasonable to assume that if we are going to continue needing boosters, then the huge vaccination hubs will remain open for years to come?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57548796

Will that just end up being for the flu jab cohorts ? If so it will be done as a combined thing at gps surgery’s like it is currently 

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3 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said:

Man of the Match during the England vs Scotland game, Billy Gilmour, has covid! 

Test and Trace are going to have fun with this one...

England team will be safe don’t worry, they couldn’t get near him all game 

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4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I was thinking that. Not sure what iam to be honest?

You can be an extroverted introvert too if that helps (my dad told me that and he's a psychologist, so he prob knows what he's on about). And my father-in-law also told me he's a 'high functioning introvert' - so I'm glad to have cleared that one up.

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9 minutes ago, Homer said:

You can be an extroverted introvert too if that helps (my dad told me that and he's a psychologist, so he prob knows what he's on about). And my father-in-law also told me he's a 'high functioning introvert' - so I'm glad to have cleared that one up.

I'm a centrist.

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9 minutes ago, Homer said:

You can be an extroverted introvert too if that helps (my dad told me that and he's a psychologist, so he prob knows what he's on about). And my father-in-law also told me he's a 'high functioning introvert' - so I'm glad to have cleared that one up.

You can also be an ambivert!

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