When will this shit end?

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

1 minute ago, Memory Man said:

Not really. Ive been double pfizered, told to isolate when i had no chance of having caught it, did 2 negative lateral flows and then decided i wasnt going to be held to the whims of a system that isnt accurate or designed for a vaccinated public.

My friend and half his office have been pinged from different interactions - now they can all work at home but imagine that was a different sort of environment where 50% of the workforce had to stay at home. All of them have had one jab, most two. 

My ping 4 of us sat at a table two one side got it, 2 the other didn't. We we sat against a perspex screen 

[fraybentos1]

Scotland numbers down on last week again! Great news 3118 last week- 2363 this week. Positivity rate dropping again (still too high tho)

[dotdash79]

11 minutes ago, slumberjack said:

Sorry to hear that.  

With the number of cases they are expecting and with the extra PCR tests that will be required for U18, I'm struggling to see hoe testing and track and trace will cope.  Hope they are on top of things! 

7th time since September. I understand why but it’s had a big impact, his grades have dropped by 1 level, he can pull them back but it will be hard work. 

[Crazyfool01]

6 minutes ago, Havors said:

Yeah me too to be honest. I feel like we have to hit a wall before we get to 100k per day... surely? May just be being overly optimistic there. We do also need to stop being case blind though... we need to worry if the admissions start doubling quicker. 

I look at case numbers still because they are still used and will influence behaviours ... rightly or wrongly ... as a vulnerable person I still dont fancy getting the virus despite the fact I know my chances of dealing with it are decent ... high community prevalence wont encourage many people back out but lower cases will 

[Memory Man]

4 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

My friend and half his office have been pinged from different interactions - now they can all work at home but imagine that was a different sort of environment where 50% of the workforce had to stay at home. All of them have had one jab, most two. 

My ping 4 of us sat at a table two one side got it, 2 the other didn't. We we sat against a perspex screen 

Exactly. It seems entirely random. I was out with my partner, i got the ping and she didnt. We were outdoors at a street food thing with distanced tables.

you arent supposed to test your way out but I chose to as a proportionate response

if i came into close contact with someone i know who had it and there was a reasonable chance of me having had it i would isolate and do loads of tests. Personal responsibility….

[Havors]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

I look at case numbers still because they are still used and will influence behaviours ... rightly or wrongly ... as a vulnerable person I still dont fancy getting the virus despite the fact I know my chances of dealing with it are decent ... high community prevalence wont encourage many people back out but lower cases will 

yeah I get you. I think (hope) the opening up sooner rather than later will benefit us in the long run. Sooner we get the exit wave to peak the sooner we come out the other end and potentially never see waves of the same magnitude ever again and it becomes seasonal like Flu. 

[northernringo]

17 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Scotland numbers down on last week again! Great news 3118 last week- 2363 this week. Positivity rate dropping again (still too high tho)

Hopefully NI is only a week or two behind you, our uptick started a week or two behind Britain's.

 

[zahidf]

 

[zahidf]

 

[DeanoL]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Lol what?

 

Test and trace makes no sense when the stated government policy is to let cases go up and get herd immunity between natural immunity and the vaccines.

Absolutely no reason to require people to isolate even if they test positive with that strategy!

Pretty sure this is textbook government playbook: keep a restriction that is obviously pointless, even leak that you're going to remove that restriction as you think it's pointless, then back-pedal. Then when everyone stops doing it, if you need to reverse the re-opening and introduce lockdowns later in the year because you forecasts were wrong, blame people for stopping using the app (for which you'll have accurate numbers on how many using it at different times). 

And the usual suspects thinking they're smarter than the government and hoodwinking them by turning off the app, when that exactly what the government expects them to do.

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Hopefully booster shots for over 50s and high flu vaccine uptake (at the same time) means things won't be as bad as feared.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, danmarks said:

So does that mean everyone who works there is tory scum ? Everyone who shops there? 

yes

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, kalifire said:

It's quite the juxtaposition to celebrate ending restrictions on the basis of scientific advice, then to deliberately undermine the tracing infrastructure because the scientific advice doesn't suit. It gives the impression it's only ever been about the science when it's convenient. It's really just entitlement.

what did you do in the great pandemic daddy?

I turned off the test and trace app sonny.

[zahidf]

He just signed off on freedom day

 

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

so they going to jab the kids, or let them get immunity naturally?

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

what did you do in the great pandemic daddy?

I turned off the test and trace app sonny.

'And its a good thing I did or I wouldn't have met your mum '

[Memory Man]

Why are they not jabbing 14-17 its the biggest open goal. Get on with it.

[st dan]

Twitter is such a strange place isn’t it. I keep reading comments that Johnson actively told people not to bother wearing masks anymore from the 19th July, but that’s just not the case is it. He said they will no longer be ‘legally required’ and will instead become a ‘personal responsibility’. Whitty then even went on to give three examples when they should really still be worn. 
It’s so tiresome that it’s seems everybody has to be at extreme sides of any argument these days. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, st dan said:

Twitter is such a strange place isn’t it. I keep reading comments that Johnson actively told people not to bother wearing masks anymore from the 19th July, but that’s just not the case is it. He said they will no longer be ‘legally required’ and will instead become a ‘personal responsibility’. Whitty then even went on to give three examples when they should really still be worn. 
It’s so tiresome that it’s seems everybody has to be at extreme sides of any argument these days. 

There is a bit of a weird element of our society that does EXACTLY what the government tells them to do and has no capacity for nuance, personal risk assessments or individual choice. This works both ways in terms of rule breaking and risk aversion. 
 

 

[Gingerfish79]

1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:

double jabbed or not you still carry it and can pass it on to others ? surely its still about keeping the infections down even though the risk is lower ? ill keep the app on and if it pings me ill do as required .... im in the fortunate position that my employer pays me for the full isolation period though ... I do understand that others might not be as fortunate and  the govt compensation for isolating has never been adequate or encouraging for people to do as required . 

I've been double-jabbed but was pinged today for a contact 3 days ago so I have to isolate for 7 days. Have done a lateral test which is negative. But I will definitely isolate because it is the responsible thing to do for the medium to long term. The gov are relaxing restrictions in the blind hope that people will be responsible - but if the majority aren't, then there will definitely be need for more restrictions or even lockdowns in the future. I am lucky enough to be able to work at home without any issue, which I know is a problem for people who would otherwise lose income (disgraceful that the gov wont cover isolation pay), but for the majority there really is no excuse.

[st dan]

1 minute ago, Gingerfish79 said:

I've been double-jabbed but was pinged today for a contact 3 days ago so I have to isolate for 7 days. Have done a lateral test which is negative. But I will definitely isolate because it is the responsible thing to do for the medium to long term. The gov are relaxing restrictions in the blind hope that people will be responsible - but if the majority aren't, then there will definitely be need for more restrictions or even lockdowns in the future. I am lucky enough to be able to work at home without any issue, which I know is a problem for people who would otherwise lose income (disgraceful that the gov wont cover isolation pay), but for the majority there really is no excuse.

I totally agree with you here, and you are definitely doing the correct thing in isolating as requested to do so.
However, the issue I have with it all is that it’s being done on the basis that you might have contacted it from somebody that you may have been in touch with close enough for long enough. But there is a very likely chance that isn’t the case and you aren’t carrying the virus at all.

I really wish there was a system in place that allowed a negative test ‘x’ number of days after receiving the ping, and that would suffice as being clear to resume your normal business. Leave the full 10 day isolation for those that actually have the virus confirmed. 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

1 hour ago, Memory Man said:

Exactly. It seems entirely random. I was out with my partner, i got the ping and she didnt. We were outdoors at a street food thing with distanced tables.

you arent supposed to test your way out but I chose to as a proportionate response

if i came into close contact with someone i know who had it and there was a reasonable chance of me having had it i would isolate and do loads of tests. Personal responsibility….

It took 6 days to be told to stay at home too. In those 6 days I'd been further and done more than the last 18 months. Typical 

[Gingerfish79]

3 minutes ago, st dan said:

I totally agree with you here, and you are definitely doing the correct thing in isolating as requested to do so.
However, the issue I have with it all is that it’s being done on the basis that you might have contacted it from somebody that you may have been in touch with close enough for long enough. But there is a very likely chance that isn’t the case and you aren’t carrying the virus at all.

I really wish there was a system in place that allowed a negative test ‘x’ number of days after receiving the ping, and that would suffice as being clear to resume your normal business. Leave the full 10 day isolation for those that actually have the virus confirmed. 

I completely agree, I've scratched my head to work out where I may have been in contact with somebody for long enough but I cant understand it. The system is so full of holes its bonkers! But its the only one we have and it can help to prevent some infection. Its inconvenient and a pain in the ass, but in the grand scheme of things its not that bad.

[steviewevie]

but will we get to 4000 pages before shit ends?

[JoeyT]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but will we get to 4000 pages before shit ends?

Easily.

We’ll be touching 5k in the blink of an eye.