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When will this shit end?


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2 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said:

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The absolute state of plague island. Grim.

Yes just checked my postcode today and it has gone up 81.2% to 491.9. Not a chance I'm going out and clapping anyone with numbers that high. I'm sure more than anything they want the numbers to drop. 

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Just now, jparx said:

Sir John Bell smashing it with the optimism on bbc news. He’s very bullish!

yep im liking him 🙂 ..... also we have 13million doses here ..... need to go through putting into vials and approval .... which I think takes 20 days ? 

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2 hours ago, Ozanne said:

I’m tempted but also not sure at the same time!

It's such a personal choice. Everything I've read and seen, including passing it into the person I know at the Oxford vaccine trials suggests it's probably safe. It's in late stage 3 trials and the first set is due to report soon according to the press without serious issues. 

However it is still a clinical trial and the literature makes clear that whilst you'll probably be fine they can't absolutely definitely guarantee it. 

For me I'm reasonably comfortable that it should be fine. Potential pay off both personally and for society is worth it. You could be partly responsible for helping save thousands of lives.

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33 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Not really. They are only counting vaccinations not offers. Literally what he said.

It's not literally what he said.

To clear this up (and I have zero doubt of this):

The are NOT counting vaccinations.

They are counting people offered the vaccines ("offered to have had") in Hancock's wording

So if I'm offered the jab for 13 February and I don't take it up, the vaccine number still ticks up by 1 towards the 13m target.

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Just now, fatyeti24 said:

PM saying that the vulnerable will have been 'offered a slot for the vaccine' by mid Feb.  That is completely different from having the vulnerable actually vaccinated by then.

Yep he's moving the goalposts already like @xxialac is saying.

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1 minute ago, fatyeti24 said:

PM saying that the vulnerable will have been 'offered a slot for the vaccine' by mid Feb.  That is completely different from having the vulnerable actually vaccinated by then.

Just now dump 12 million vaccination letters in the nearest skip and that's proof of how world beating at vaccinating the public we are.

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Sorry slightly unrelated to the current convo but my sister works in a major hospital in a city. Most of the staff had their second Pfizer jab done yesterday and a large majority have gone off sick today with fever/aches& pains/vomiting etc.

To me it seems unlikely that this would be side effects from the Pfizer vaccine and more likely there has been a covid outbreak on the ward and the first dose didn’t give them enough immunity to stop them catching the virus before the second dose had time to kick in.

I know it’s an isolated incident but potentially food for thought?

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12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

didn't they bin that, lateral tests not accurate enough?

Different places rolled it out differently. Kirklees for example set up some drive through mass testing sites. Barnsley and Coventry gave out the rapid test kits to specific groups and wanted them to test themselves at regular intervals.

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You could, by mid Feb, have been offered a slot for the vaccination, though that slot might not be until much later in the year.

We're working against September here really aren't we?  I've no doubt some restrictions will be loosened again in the summer, but it's autumn when we need to ready for.

Still, maybe I'm wrong and things will be almost sorted in 6 weeks time.

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