When will this shit end?

[rivalschools.price]

57 minutes ago, Euphoricape said:

 Volume 1

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, SheffJeff said:

I'm hugely embarrassed putting my recycling out each month... I've even heard the binmen comment on it.

Every MONTH? I get embarrassed by my weekly one....

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Any idea what they say? I won't click on The Mail and The Times is behind a paywall.

Presume you can watch the times testing video ? On the article 

Edited October 18, 2020 by crazyfool1

[stuartbert two hats]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Presume you can watch the times testing video ? On the article 

Oops, didn't even click through!

[zahidf]

 

multiple vaccines by March

 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

multiple vaccines by March

 

No we need them in jan  

[Mr.Tease]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

No we need them in jan  

It does say “by March”, so we can but hope they might be here sooner

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Mr.Tease said:

It does say “by March”, so we can but hope they might be here sooner

My worry is it’s slowly heading backwards time wise ... of course ... van tam was talking jan I thought 

[Leyrulion]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

My worry is it’s slowly heading backwards time wise ... of course ... van tam was talking jan I thought 

It was originally "September" and then "very confident by the end of the year".

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Leyrulion said:

It was originally "September" and then "very confident by the end of the year".

Yep ...  still hold out some hope ... didn’t hear sept mentioned ... but Oct was in terms of trials results definately 

[zahidf]

33 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

No we need them in jan  

Will be one by Jan probably. Multiple vaccines by March because of different stages of stage 3 trials

[SheffJeff]

I think we should all take a lot of comfort in the fact that these clever fuckers in white coats have managed to develop a safe vaccine in such a short period of time as this sort of time scale is unprecedented. I know I'll sleep a little sounder tonight knowing there's now a light at the end of the tunnel.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, SheffJeff said:

I think we should all take a lot of comfort in the fact that these clever fuckers in white coats have managed to develop a safe vaccine in such a short period of time as this sort of time scale is unprecedented. I know I'll sleep a little sounder tonight knowing there's now a light at the end of the tunnel.

You and me both! Quite the incredible effort by the scientists

[stuartbert two hats]

Anyone who doubts that these vaccines are actually coming probably has never worked on any IT project of any reasonable size - the deadlines move back and back and back, but if there's enough will and enough will, then damn thing does get delivered. 

Besides, I wouldn't rule out December for some start of roll out, just based on a headline in "I".

[Chapple12345]

9 minutes ago, SheffJeff said:

I think we should all take a lot of comfort in the fact that these clever fuckers in white coats have managed to develop a safe vaccine in such a short period of time as this sort of time scale is unprecedented. I know I'll sleep a little sounder tonight knowing there's now a light at the end of the tunnel.

I don't envy these people at all but I completely agree, they're doing such an incredible job and it's nice for them to actually know what they're doing and not have it for their own personal gain unlike certain other characters in this whole pandemic...

[Ryan1984]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Anyone who doubts that these vaccines are actually coming probably has never worked on any IT project of any reasonable size - the deadlines move back and back and back, but if there's enough will and enough will, then damn thing does get delivered. 

Besides, I wouldn't rule out December for some start of roll out, just based on a headline in "I".

It’s coming - and all the scientists have always felt confident about it. It just needs time and patience - which is in short supply for so many of us.

The Heil article says those old evil backbench Tories are demanding Johnson puts a date on ‘returning back to normal’. Seems a stupid and foolish idea.

[Fuzzy Afro]

8 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

It’s coming - and all the scientists have always felt confident about it. It just needs time and patience - which is in short supply for so many of us.

The Heil article says those old evil backbench Tories are demanding Johnson puts a date on ‘returning back to normal’. Seems a stupid and foolish idea.

Why not? They need to have a point where we learn to live with it. 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

 

multiple vaccines by March

 

[shoptildrop]

According to several papers looks like 100m offered to Manchester to go into Tier 3

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by shoptildrop

[Fuzzy Afro]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italy-tightens-socialising-rules-to-combat-covid-spike-including-a-rule-of-six-12107993
 

Italy brings in rule of six, although only in restaurants and bars rather than private gatherings 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

[stuartbert two hats]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Why not? They need to have a point where we learn to live with it. 

What does "learn to live with it" actually mean that we're not already doing? Be specific.

It's ridiculous to pluck a date out of the air when we're going to have suddenly "learnt to live with it". You can try to go back to normal, but if it leads to exponential growth in hospitalisations, then we clearly have not "learnt to live with it", no matter how many Tory MPs want us to.

It's a vacuous phrase that means nothing. It's a call to inaction.

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, stuartbert two hats said:

What does "learn to live with it" actually mean that we're not already doing? Be specific.

It's ridiculous to pluck a date out of the air when we're going to have suddenly "learnt to live with it". You can try to go back to normal, but if it leads to exponential growth in hospitalisations, then we clearly have not "learnt to live with it", no matter how many Tory MPs want us to.

It's a vacuous phrase that means nothing. It's a call to inaction.

Sweden has lived with it since day 1. More deaths and less economic damage, but crucially they aren’t stuck in purgatory waiting for a vaccine. 

[Ozanne]

Yeah it's pointless to pick a date, as any date wouldn't be based on any real evidence of anything and would be completely arbitrary. Then what happens if we get a setback and can't get 'back to normal' by that date. It's a redundant idea.