When will this shit end?

[Punksnotdead]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

i wanted to nip out to the pharmacy ... worried its going to be all over on my return 

Nah, you'll only miss 6 wickets! 😉

[zahidf]

 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

 

problems with fish variants in eeling ..... Ill get my coat 🙂 

[gizmoman]

3 hours ago, zahidf said:

 

If this is true it begs the question why would we need vaccine passports to go to the pub, gigs, etc? If 92% of the population were safe we could surely assume we had herd immunity and it wouldn't be an issue if 8% of the audience at a gig were not vaccinated, some of those would have some immunity anyway (prior infection, natural immunity).

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, gizmoman said:

If

thats your issue .... they need to sort this early .... maybe it won't happen ... or it will just be a complete mess ... but decisions need to be made I would think ...

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

You need to factor in 12,000,000 kids 

No you wouldn’t. Coronavirus is an incredibly minor disease in children. 

[stuie]

20 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Thanks for this - it works!

Awesome! I was so happy when my mum got booked in last night 😃

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

No you wouldn’t. Coronavirus is an incredibly minor disease in children. 

have they stopped being able to spread it then ? phew 

[BobWillis]

3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You need to factor in 12,000,000 unvaccinated kids 

I don’t think kids are going to be in the pub. 

[stuie]

2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I tested it with my mother in laws details and it worked...
I am now trying to convince the silly cow to ignore the message on the first page 🙂 

I might just book it for her and send here the date and time 😄😄😄 

Haha that’s it! It’s not like you are getting something you shouldn’t... it checks your NHS record and only lets you proceed if you meet the criteria!

Tried my own details out of curiosity and it said feck off 😂

[stuartbert two hats]

27 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Just the fury ones!

My cat rarely gets angry, but may be a coronavirus carrier.  Is he ok?

[Fuzzy Afro]

9 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

have they stopped being able to spread it then ? phew 

Children don’t spread airborne diseases very efficiently. This isn’t like flu where their mucky pup fingers spread the virus everywhere. Even still, with the vulnerable vaccinated, children wouldn’t be spreading to them. 

[BobWillis]

There’s not 12,000,000 under 18’s who haven’t been exposed to the virus yet is there? Don’t be so ridiculous. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Children don’t spread airborne diseases very efficiently. This isn’t like flu where their mucky pup fingers spread the virus everywhere. Even still, with the vulnerable vaccinated, children wouldn’t be spreading to them. 

ah right ... those damn scientists wanting the schools shut ..... oh and my brother and sister in Law who contracted covid from their kids bit of a fucker that 😞 ... 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

My cat rarely gets angry, but may be a coronavirus carrier.  Is he ok?

No. He needs eliminating. I am having my dog put down this afternoon as a precaution.

Edited February 25, 2021 by steviewevie

[Zoo Music Girl]

37 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Ooh that might be my area this time. They did this before I think but it wasn't my postcode.

[Mellotr0n]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

My Mum has just had the text from her Drs surgery for her vaccination, she’s booked in for it tomorrow morning!

Have no upvotes but very happy for you. I know that feeling of relief.

[gizmoman]

14 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

lol - doesn't matter how many have been exposed or not...

Herd immunity is measured against the whole population.   Hence why you have to factor in the children.

So are you planning to exclude the kids from pubs and gigs, to ensure everyone's safe? If not how would a vaccine passport that kept 8% of adults out stop infections? (bearing in mind even vaccinated people could transmit it)

[Ozanne]

5 minutes ago, Mellotr0n said:

Have no upvotes but very happy for you. I know that feeling of relief.

Thank you, it definitely is a relief!

[March Hare]

8 minutes ago, Mellotr0n said:

Have no upvotes but very happy for you. I know that feeling of relief.

I’ll sort it 

[squirrelarmy]

34 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

No. He needs eliminating. I am having my dog put down this afternoon as a precaution.

I think we better also euthanise Lancashire as well. 

[DeanoL]

59 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

If this is true it begs the question why would we need vaccine passports to go to the pub, gigs, etc? If 92% of the population were safe we could surely assume we had herd immunity and it wouldn't be an issue if 8% of the audience at a gig were not vaccinated, some of those would have some immunity anyway (prior infection, natural immunity).

The % needed for herd immunity depends on how much the vaccines prevent transmission, I think. The better they are at that, the lower the number needed for herd immunity. 

[mcshed]

1 hour ago, gizmoman said:

If this is true it begs the question why would we need vaccine passports to go to the pub, gigs, etc? If 92% of the population were safe we could surely assume we had herd immunity and it wouldn't be an issue if 8% of the audience at a gig were not vaccinated, some of those would have some immunity anyway (prior infection, natural immunity).

 

37 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

So are you planning to exclude the kids from pubs and gigs, to ensure everyone's safe? If not how would a vaccine passport that kept 8% of adults out stop infections? (bearing in mind even vaccinated people could transmit it)

It's about degrees of risk not absolutes. The more non vaccinated people the greater the risk. So it's perfectly logical to exclude the likes of you(I actually think you won't be excluded as you'll take the vaccine.) but not kids. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

 

Here comes this week's culture war

[gizmoman]

12 minutes ago, mcshed said:

 

It's about degrees of risk not absolutes. The more non vaccinated people the greater the risk. So it's perfectly logical to exclude the likes of you(I actually think you won't be excluded as you'll take the vaccine.) but not kids. 

The point is there has to be a medical justification for the passport, it's clear there is always going to be an element of risk, but does the increased risk of allowing the extra 8%  justify the intrusion, inconvenience and cost which this system will entail? I doubt if keeping a small minority out will change things much. You're probably right about me taking the vaccine, I'm certainly becoming more open to taking it. BTW I don't believe the 92% figure in that article, My gut feeling is a 10-20% refusal rate though that may decline.