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When will this shit end?


Chrisp1986

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14 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

I think a lot of people forget this doesn't apply to the entire workforce...yes its its going to make things easier for people like myself who work in offices.  But I also have friends who work in the theatre industry, postmen, chippys, sparkys, maintenence, catering, retail etc.  Nothing changes for them.

While that's true, it's also where the biggest change happens because of how office working currently works. Those working in offices tend to have longer commutes than those working in retail (as jobs are more specialised), electricians, plumbers and so on already have flexible working if they work for themselves -though obviously it's limited by needing to be on site.

And regardless, things will change for everyone when you have a significant number of people no longer going into offices - it means less people in town centres, which means less stuff in town centres, and more stuff outside of towns - which includes retail, restaurants, cafes etc. It'll effect everyone to some extent or the other (and not always in a positive way).

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1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

You must be very old to have lived through a pandemic then as the last global one was a hundred years ago.

and as for the rest of your comment - grow up, stop thinking about nobody but you and realise there is a huge world and not just the small isolated part you exist in.

Not even remotely true. There was a global pandemic  in 2009 with around 1/6 of the world’s population infected 

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4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

One assumes we'll still ultimately end up with a higher % uptake in the UK than France will though won't we?

They were having massive issues initially weren't they? I assume that's not changed dramatically or Macron wouldn't have gone full blackmail?

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4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Bless you - another one who reads one line and decides. If you wanted the context then you should have read all of what was written not just this one bit - don't you think? Probably not often

If you could be bothered to read all of what was written then you might understand - but I doubt it as your mind is closed.

You are pretty patronising though. You do talk to others that have a different point of view to you as stupid or misguided. 

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50 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

I think maybe post-pandemic we will look back and say maybe this sped up more flexible working behaviours, maybe people won't go into work sick, maybe some medicine has been advanced by a decade or whatever. All good changes. To me, 'new normal' means something worse than what we had before. Maybe that is just the way I take it to mean.

So changes you agree with are just progress being made, and "new normal" only covers bad things?

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7 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Bless you - another one who reads one line and decides. If you wanted the context then you should have read all of what was written not just this one bit - don't you think? Probably not often

If you could be bothered to read all of what was written then you might understand - but I doubt it as your mind is closed.

I have to say there is a bit of irony there 🙂

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9 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

While that's true, it's also where the biggest change happens because of how office working currently works. Those working in offices tend to have longer commutes than those working in retail (as jobs are more specialised), electricians, plumbers and so on already have flexible working if they work for themselves -though obviously it's limited by needing to be on site.

And regardless, things will change for everyone when you have a significant number of people no longer going into offices - it means less people in town centres, which means less stuff in town centres, and more stuff outside of towns - which includes retail, restaurants, cafes etc. It'll effect everyone to some extent or the other (and not always in a positive way).

I think this has been argued round and round in circles on here...14,000 people where I work and been told all in from early Sept onwards. (and I've been going in anyway)

Might be different for you where you live but its a sweeping generalisation to think that city centres will become ghost towns just because some office workers are now going to flexiwork....again, it might apply to you or your area but it might not elsewhere.

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7 minutes ago, Simsy said:

So changes you agree with are just progress being made, and "new normal" only covers bad things?

I'm saying when I hear people say new normal or words to that effect they're saying things will never be as good as we had it ever again. That's the implication I see.

I think things will change but it won't necessarily be worse going forward once this has passed.

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2 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Did you read my whole first post and their selected parts being quoted or did you just leap in on this bit?

I tried to discuss but was ignored and patronised myself hence my full on sarcasm - you can call it what you want, you normally do............. and yes, that was patronising.

Two wrongs don't make a right.... Get to your room young man! 😄😉 

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3 minutes ago, Havors said:

Is 5% infections good considering there was no restrictions? 

To be honest looking at that picture of how tightly packed and unventilated it is I'd say probably yes. Shit loads more will have been exposed to it than that, so between some people naturally being less susceptible and vaccines that probably is a good number. Even if its really 10% in reality which I'd guess it will be as not everyone will be tested 

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1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said:

To be honest looking at that picture of how tightly packed and unventilated it is I'd say probably yes. Shit loads more will have been exposed to it than that, so between some people naturally being less susceptible and vaccines that probably is a good number. Even if its really 10% in reality which I'd guess it will be as not everyone will be tested 

Still waiting on the Download results. They will be interesting. 

Im working Latitude, worried the results from that will come too late to be of any benefit for the rest of the summer festivals. Football stadiums will be back to full capacity though so I think it will be hard for the government to prevent festivals from going ahead. 

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