When will this shit end?

[Avalon_Fields]

My own take on it is the nurses I know take it all too seriously. By that I mean seem reluctant to open anything up until we're just about at zero.

My reference point is 0.04% of the world have been killed by Covid (so far). Many more are killed by other preventable conditions. Let's open up as we're as safe now in the UK as we probably will be for at least a couple of years.

[eFestivals]

7 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

 

Well I am not speaking for all nurses - I am speaking for two I know within my family.  (I know others who don't do this)

I've spoken to a lot of nurses in the last six months and apart from a few exceptions I've been impressed with their professionaism.

 

7 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

They aren't "stupid" but they do ignore the rules.  One of them carried on seeing his girlfriend who lived 30 miles away and they both (two nurses) continued to have Sundays lunch's together etc despite the rules banning household mixing throughout.

 

[Homer]

5 minutes ago, nikkic said:

Having worked in gyms for 20 years, I can confirm (perhaps unsurprisingly) that wiping your sweat off machines is a policy. 

Very few people actually bother though. 

Is it policy at the moment to wear a mask when between machines please? Only asking as I am the only person I've seen doing this since reopening (bar some staff members sometimes).

[gooner1990]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

Because they are family / in love (in the case of the BF/GF situation) and they want to see each other...  Nothing more complex than that.

Its selfish - but understandable...

It was hard to watch (from a far) while we kept to the rules to be honest and the kids missed on seeing family etc.

 

Same for everyone though isn't it...people give out excuses but then seem to forget whoever they are telling them to have had to deal with their own separation from family etc.

We have a very, very small family and out of those that are left i've luckily seen my mum a bit as we live in the same town, however  I've seen my brother just once since last February and my 94 year old grandmother not at all since last October because we've stuck to it...tough on us, but that was what was required!

[gooner1990]

1 minute ago, Homer said:

Is it policy at the moment to wear a mask when between machines please? Only asking as I am the only person I've seen doing this since reopening (bar some staff members sometimes).

Back in December, The gym I used to use in Oxford put extra staff on to apparently make sure everyone was following guidelines and whenever I used to go in they did none of the sort and were mostly stood around playing on their phones or chatting.  Few people (inc me) left because of it. 

[JoeyT]

1 minute ago, Homer said:

Is it policy at the moment to wear a mask when between machines please? Only asking as I am the only person I've seen doing this since reopening (bar some staff members sometimes).

Yes it is but it’s a ridiculous rule so barely anyone is doing it.

Special shout out to the lady who was on a treadmill near me last week who was running whilst wearing her mask 😂

[Homer]

1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

Yes it is but it’s a ridiculous rule so barely anyone is doing it.

Special shout out to the lady who was on a treadmill near me last week who was running whilst wearing her mask 😂

I started spinning with my mask on last week (that was down to sheer stupidity on my part though to be fair).

[Crazyfool01]

I went for a swim in mine 🙂 

[gooner1990]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

I have followed the rules mainly out of guilt.  If someone I know gets it I want to be sure it wasn't my fault.

When my mum almost died from it I have to be honest it helped deal with the situation not feeling like I had given it to her.  I had met up in the garden distanced just days before.  She invited me in for a cup of tea FFS lol.

She recovered thankfully.

Good to hear! Someone that I work closely with was in hospital for three weeks and another friend had both parents die from it within two days of each other.

Horrific.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

I really want this to be true 😄 

 

I’ve been trying to keep my head above water throughout the pandemic 

[gooner1990]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

Yup its horrific...

The rules are blunt though and common-sense rules the day.

In April I met people socially distanced on the drive way.  August we met in a park like it was normal.  Winter I kept away from everyone (it was predictable what Jan was going to look like) and last weekend, finally, I met two friends indoors where 3 out of the 4 adults had been vaccinated.

Not sure how much the above matches the rules but I argue all sensible.

So we should say rule breaker = idiot.  The rules are blunt and a over the top.

What I don't agree with is constant disregard for the rules by people especially when living with others.

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, gooner1990 said:

I've had a few friends mention in passing that they have been having people in their houses for a while not part of bubble etc and when I said something about it they said 'oh no one is bothering now anyway'

Quick story......Bank holiday Monday just gone my girlfriend let her sister inside our house for two hours whilst I was sleeping off a hangover because apparently it was too cold to stand outside....when I came down they were just gossiping/chatting hardly a big reason to be let in - I gave a glare and she was gone within 5 mins. 

Both have admitted since they just can't be bothered anymore and my girlfriend has now also admitted she was lying to me when she said she was standing outside her sisters house throughout lockdown and had been going in the house.  They both also appointed themselves in support bubbles to their Dad even thought it should have only been one of them.

Fed up of the whole thing causes no end of arguments roll on the 17th May when it doesn't apply anymore!

A mate of mine had the bloody police round for the second time, because of very nosy neighbours noticing that two people entered his house earlier that day, his 8 yr old son's auntie+cousin came round.  Badgered their way into the house after 10 at night trying to look for a party.  The most dangerous thing to happen that day was the copper entering his house, not that anything vaguely risky happened all day at all.

I've been a right square during all this, but even I think he should put a sign in his front yard saying "snitches get stiches"

[stuartbert two hats]

41 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Are any of you high risk? If not then I don’t see the issue here 

Do you still not understand the concept of infection vectors?  

[gooner1990]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

For sure...  you have to think about the people around you.  Pisses me off when people don't think about the impact.  My mum pissed me off inviting me in for a cup of tea.  Okay I am probably fine but I don't want to live with the guilt of killing her.  Then your the twat for not going in for a cup of tea!   Got this all over my family.

Agreed, and with my girlfriends family they were going to see their grandmother who's family decided they were anti vaxxers so none of them were vaccinated.  Just complete stupidity in my book.

I said fine do what you want but I don't want them near my house as I have to go into work etc and then I find the sister in my lounge last week! 

[Homer]

4 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

What I don't agree with is constant disregard for the rules by people especially when living with others.

Lot of cognitive dissonance going. I've seen two of my colleagues slating people for breaking the rules - but then broke the rules thseselves.

[gooner1990]

1 minute ago, Homer said:

Lot of cognitive dissonance going. I've seen two of my colleagues slating people for breaking the rules - but then broke the rules thseselves.

My girlfriend told me off for standing too close to a friend of mine on a walk out yet then invites her unvaccinated sister into our home.  

[philipsteak]

37 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I know NHS nurses who couldn't care less....  which just floors me really...

When we were open last summer and December, some of the worst customers we had in terms of following the rules were NHS staff. Although no idea whether they were all clinical staff of course. They weren't the only ones, there were plenty if others doing it too, but they stand out in the memory because we knew that they worked for the NHS. Some definitely were clinical, including the 15 doctors who were trying to stay at a time when I think it was 2 households max. I know being a doctor quite often runs in families but not quite to that extent. Plenty of other examples too. 

[gooner1990]

3 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

A mate of mine had the bloody police round for the second time, because of very nosy neighbours noticing that two people entered his house earlier that day, his 8 yr old son's auntie+cousin came round.  Badgered their way into the house after 10 at night trying to look for a party.  The most dangerous thing to happen that day was the copper entering his house, not that anything vaguely risky happened all day at all.

I've been a right square during all this, but even I think he should put a sign in his front yard saying "snitches get stiches"

Were they under the impression a party was going on or were they responding to people just entering a property? Must have been a quiet day!

[gooner1990]

Just now, philipsteak said:

When we were open last summer and December, some of the worst customers we had in terms of following the rules were NHS staff. Although no idea whether they were all clinical staff of course. They weren't the only ones, there were plenty if others doing it too, but they stand out in the memory because we knew that they worked for the NHS. Some definitely were clinical, including the 15 doctors who were trying to stay at a time when I think it was 2 households max. I know being a doctor quite often runs in families but not quite to that extent. Plenty of other examples too. 

is this a pub or restaurant?

[nikkic]

20 minutes ago, Homer said:

Is it policy at the moment to wear a mask when between machines please? Only asking as I am the only person I've seen doing this since reopening (bar some staff members sometimes).

In our gym it is. But it’s a small private facility. 

Not sure it is in your bigger gyms tbh. 

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, gooner1990 said:

Were they under the impression a party was going on or were they responding to people just entering a property? Must have been a quiet day!

Party I think, because they wanted to see if people were still there.

Nosy neighbours, I think. Second time it's happened.

[gooner1990]

Just got an invite from my local GP for the pfizer jab on 19th May (I'm 39)

[philipsteak]

3 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

is this a pub or restaurant?

Youth hostel. With a bar

[jimmillen]

Just now, stuartbert two hats said:

Do you still not understand the concept of infection vectors?  

A lot of people still don't seem to get this... Over a year into it all. What can you do? 🙄 The rules have never just been about protecting yourself or your loved ones, they've been a population-wide blunt instrument to help protect all of us. 

It also neglects the behavioural impact our own actions can have on others. Humans are social animals & look to each other for cues on how to behave. If people see other people "bending" the rules, it makes it more likely they'll do the same - and sooner or later that could impact people who are unvaccinated, or higher risk.

 

[efcfanwirral]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Party I think, because they wanted to see if people were still there.

Nosy neighbours, I think. Second time it's happened.

for me its a reflection on the police priorities - surely there is something more important they could be doing at this point. Even a visible presence on the street is more important than that sort of thing