When will this shit end?

[Fuzzy Afro]

Anyone who still doesn’t think vaccinations reduce transmission is an absolute roast potato

[Crazyfool01]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Anyone who still doesn’t think vaccinations reduce transmission is an absolute roast potato

More like a jacket ... they can get their coats ... 

[km9]

12 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Anyone who still doesn’t think vaccinations reduce transmission is an absolute roast potato

Post of the day 

[fraybentos1]

15 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Anyone who still doesn’t think vaccinations reduce transmission is an absolute roast potato

There is plenty of people put there I have seen them on Twitter.

They confuse ' don't know if it stops transmission' with ' it does not stop transmission'. 

There are so many thick people out there and a lot of them are on Twitter/FB and very vocal.

[gooner1990]

10 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

There are so many thick people out there and a lot of them are on Twitter/FB and very vocal.

I got rid of Facebook in April last year and just used Twitter instead...now it feels like stupid people/facebook mums have migrated over there too!

[Toilet Duck]

1 hour ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Is that because the immune system is overloaded? It has so much to deal with its effectively making mistakes, and it can't keep up?

Not necessarily, but we don’t know lots of this for sure. Inflammation is good when it’s controlled, it’s part of the healing process, but chronic inflammation isn’t, it does all sorts of damage. If the quality of the antibodies and cellular immunity elicited isn’t good, then it’s not very effective at clearing the virus. What’s been observed in patients with poor outcome is that they make lots of antibodies and t-cells, but they show weak affinity for the virus, so their effort at clearing it is inefficient and non-specific. I’m sure there’s loads more involved, the picture of what is happening in patients that do badly is only really starting the emerge.

[Fuzzy Afro]

Also to be added to the roast potato list are people who are still rabbiting on about people being “half vaccinated” despite overwhelming evidence that the vaccines are highly effective after one dose. 

[zahidf]

 

[Crazyfool01]

9 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

I got rid of Facebook in April last year and just used Twitter instead...now it feels like stupid people/facebook mums have migrated over there too!

on a positive here it can be used to persuade some to the vaccine sceptics to have a jab and potentially save lives ... it can also go the other way ... ive just updated my profile photo to show im happy to have the jab ... and once ive had it I will update it again ... the power of influencing people can go both ways ... 

[incident]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Also to be added to the roast potato list are people who are still rabbiting on about people being “half vaccinated” despite overwhelming evidence that the vaccines are highly effective after one dose. 

I agree in the context of conversations about protection, and about how soon we can lift restrictions.

But it is an important distinction in terms of conversations about the rollout and about the long term, as come April we're going to need to start delivering those second doses, and it's still seen as likely that protection will fade sooner without the second dose so it could become problematic if people don't take them.

[eFestivals]

well, some shit's ended with the Winkle's giving up work forever. Somehow doubt they'll be giving up the state benefits tho.

[gooner1990]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

on a positive here it can be used to persuade some to the vaccine sceptics to have a jab and potentially save lives ... it can also go the other way ... ive just updated my profile photo to show im happy to have the jab ... and once ive had it I will update it again ... the power of influencing people can go both ways ... 

Think I was fed up of Facebook in general and COVID-19 was the last straw...given its straight off the back of constant Brexit crap.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, gooner1990 said:

Think I was fed up of Facebook in general and COVID-19 was the last straw...given its straight off the back of constant Brexit crap.

totally get that 🙂 

[Copperface]

So if this is correct and furlough arrangements and UC uplift are going to be extended by a further six months what does that indicate, or have implications, for the level of lifting restrictions in the near future?

Surely if there were to be an across the board relaxation then neither would be needed?

Or is it simply there as a safety net to cover different sectors opening on a graduated basis? And if so, is it way off to anticipate that some sectors will remain restricted until the beginning of autumn?

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-19/peston-universal-credit-20-uplift-to-continue-for-another-six-months

 

[Guest]

Matt Hancock acted ‘unlawfully’ on procurement  

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Copperface said:

So if this is correct and furlough arrangements and UC uplift are going to be extended by a further six months what does that indicate, or have implications, for the level of lifting restrictions in the near future?

Surely if there were to be an across the board relaxation then neither would be needed?

Or is it simply there as a safety net to cover different sectors opening on a graduated basis? And if so, is it way off to anticipate that some sectors will remain restricted until the beginning of autumn?

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-19/peston-universal-credit-20-uplift-to-continue-for-another-six-months

 

I think it’s to give foundations for restrictions to be gradually relaxed over the next few months into the summer then see what the situation is like in the Autumn. 

[Crazyfool01]

oh a little positive ... I got a letter through from consultant a week or so ago giving me a video consultation .... then I got a call from the appointments team saying that consultant needed to reschedule for a month later ..... but this was an in person appointment for early march .... shows me that the NHS seem to be planning for improvement now ... 

[hodgey123]

10 minutes ago, Copperface said:

So if this is correct and furlough arrangements and UC uplift are going to be extended by a further six months what does that indicate, or have implications, for the level of lifting restrictions in the near future?

Surely if there were to be an across the board relaxation then neither would be needed?

Or is it simply there as a safety net to cover different sectors opening on a graduated basis? And if so, is it way off to anticipate that some sectors will remain restricted until the beginning of autumn?

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-19/peston-universal-credit-20-uplift-to-continue-for-another-six-months

 

You'd have to hope it's the government realising that there will still be a period of rockiness even after all restrictions are lifted as some are reluctant to go out, or at the very least a lag back to 'normal' behaviours?

[JoeyT]

I can't keep up, was this posted?

 

[JoeyT]

Edited February 19, 2021 by JoeyT

[efcfanwirral]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I think it’s to give foundations for restrictions to be gradually relaxed over the next few months into the summer then see what the situation is like in the Autumn. 

I'm sure it won't be helping newly  self employed people in the 19/20 tax year despite the deadline for their tax returns for that year passing end of this month. He seems to hate us self employed 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I'm sure it won't be helping newly  self employed people in the 19/20 tax year despite the deadline for their tax returns for that year passing end of this month. He seems to hate us self employed 

Are you on the 2 million (I think?) people that have fallen through the cracks?

[Fuzzy Afro]

12000 cases and 533 deaths, down from 15000 last week

[hodgey123]

20% and 30% reductions in cases and deaths respectively week on week. Looks good. 

[Guest]

Vaccination update: