When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

It is good to see how positive Britains are on the vaccine and then you see the figures in France and the US. They will take much longer to escape it.

France had a proper lockdown as well.  Seems like they'll be locked down while we are vaccinated it seems unless they get some common sense.

[steviewevie]

They going to use the not so accurate lateral tests in schools?

[zahidf]

Just now, steviewevie said:

They going to use the not so accurate lateral tests in schools?

Yeah basically less accurate mass testing better than nothing.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

And I think this will only grow the more that take it as people become more confident with others having had it ... in 6 months time it won’t be such a new thing anymore 

Maybe will work internationally too and France, USA and elsewhere will get more people willing to take the vaccine when they see it working in countries like UK and Israel...?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Maybe will work internationally too and France, USA and elsewhere will get more people willing to take the vaccine when they see it working in countries like UK and Israel...?

Fingers crossed 🤞 

[Leyrulion]

35 minutes ago, dotdash79 said:

I can understand the extended dose times on the Oxford vaccine. But not the biotech one. 
 

mixing Oxford and biotech outside of a controlled study where people opt in is reckless. 

Why is it reckless? If it's been approved by the various regulators.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Why is it reckless? If it's been approved by the various regulators.

Weirdly I was thinking the other day what would happen if by accident someone got the Pfizer vaccine and then the AZ one.

[ShakeyCrash]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Weirdly I was thinking the other day what would happen if by accident someone got the Pfizer vaccine and then the AZ one.

I think they would start fighting crime with their new super powers

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

13 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Fair enough but if we are going up to the green bar, its pretty much of a muchness in real terms

What it shows is attitudes towards the vaccine changes fairly significantly as you go down through the age groups and therefore the level of risk changes. 

I don't understand why it's so unpalatable that those more at risk are far more likely to be less wary of a vaccine than those at the least risk of any serious harm from an illness. 

[dotdash79]

10 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Why is it reckless? If it's been approved by the various regulators.

Because they have approved the 2 dose of the biotech and also 2 dose of the oxford. Not 1 of each. 
 

Until it’s done as a trial and the impacts are understood it’s unethical to do that. 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Why is it reckless? If it's been approved by the various regulators.

 

This might give some insight into it.

[zahidf]

 

[mattiloy]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Weirdly I was thinking the other day what would happen if by accident someone got the Pfizer vaccine and then the AZ one.

Double jeopardy & full control of bill Gates’ tiny mind 

[stuartbert two hats]

13 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Why is it reckless? If it's been approved by the various regulators.

Because it's never been tried. To be fair, the guidance does stress that you should try to keep the second dose to the same vaccine as the first one.

But still, it's pretty surprising how relaxed the UK regulators are about chopping and changing different vaccines when both are licensed for emergency use and are the first vaccines in their class to have ever been approved for use.

I'm very much on the "these vaccines appear to be safe" school of thought, but consider my eyebrows raised by their willingness to approve completely untested ways of using these drugs.

And yes, they're effectively Phase 4, but these are not double blind trials, this is a monitored roll out, quite different.

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

So many conflicting figures! WHy did Hancock say 500k of the oxford one if it is actually 7 times that. The more the better though! Here's hoping they can hit 2 million plus a week soon.

[stuartbert two hats]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

This might give some insight into it.

Dr C covers this issue in today's update:

 

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by stuartbert two hats

[Fuzzy Afro]

12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Weirdly I was thinking the other day what would happen if by accident someone got the Pfizer vaccine and then the AZ one.

Pfizer is 95% effective and Oxford is 70% effective so if you take both then you are 165% likely to not get covid 😉 

[ShakeyCrash]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Pfizer is 95% effective and Oxford is 70% effective so if you take both then you are 165% likely to not get covid 😉 

So in short covid would get you?

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Pfizer is 95% effective and Oxford is 70% effective so if you take both then you are 165% likely to not get covid 😉 

You kid, but as a teenager, a girl I knew was convinced that mixing a 5.5% drink and a 7.5% drink would give you a 13% cocktail.

It was called a Blastaway, for those who know 😉

[steviewevie]

14 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

govt is just leaking the news to the telegraph,

[steviewevie]

What difference will Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine make in UK?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/what-difference-will-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-make-in-the-uk

[SheffJeff]

10 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

You kid, but as a teenager, a girl I knew was convinced that mixing a 5.5% drink and a 7.5% drink would give you a 13% cocktail.

It was called a Blastaway, for those who know 😉

My drink of choice before a school disco ... diamond white and castaway if I remember correctly. On a semi relevant note I've just been unpacking christmas presents and had forgotten about this mug i got... shit present considering I don't drink tea or coffee but still love it.

[stuartbert two hats]

6 minutes ago, SheffJeff said:

My drink of choice before a school disco ... diamond white and castaway if I remember correctly. On a semi relevant note I've just been unpacking christmas presents and had forgotten about this mug i got... shit present considering I don't drink tea or coffee but still love it.

You are, indeed, one of the people "who know"

[efcfanwirral]

Ah yes a war is exactly what we need right now...

[Mr.Tease]

8 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Ah yes a war is exactly what we need right now...

Ha, good luck with that!