When will this shit end?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Israel have already vaccinated 1/9 of their population in just over a week whereas we are faffing around with it like it’s a 9-5 job.

 

We need a 24/7 rapid vaccine programme ASAP. 

Anyone seen the new minister for vaccines ? He’s as quiet as the rest of them !! 

[incident]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Israel have already vaccinated 1/9 of their population in just over a week whereas we are faffing around with it like it’s a 9-5 job.

 

We need a 24/7 rapid vaccine programme ASAP. 

We definitely need to ramp up, but if it's done properly then 24/7 wouldn't help at all.

Think of the bottlenecks in these terms -

- Supply of vaccine
- Logistics to transport
- Staff to deliver it
- Locations to deliver it

The only one of those problems that 24/7 would solve is Locations - and that should be by far the easiest to scale up.

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by incident

[incident]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I don’t think we’ve seen in ICUs like they did in Italy, have we?

Wasn't the footage from Italy (and I'm sure there's also been some from the US) enough?

[Homer]

6 minutes ago, incident said:

Why do you keep mentioning fertility?

I don't think anyone halfway credible is even contemplating that there might a link there, and I'm not convinced anyone worth listening to will even bother to study it unless as a response to or pre-emption of some Andrew Wakefield style bullshit / scaremongering . There was initially advice not to give the Pfizer jab to pregnant women, but that's because the scientists are if anything being over cautious not because there was any specific concern.

That's not to say there can't ever be a link - but given that the vaccines fundamentally work by simulating (a non infectious) part of the virus, it's extremely likely that if any issues are discovered down the line then the manifestation in the vaccine would be no worse than you could get from the virus itself.

My colleague told me she wouldn't take a vaccine because of fertility. But then again, she also told me her boyfriend believes in QAnon and that Trump and Biden are as bad as each other.

[steviewevie]

Marina Hyde's new year's address...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/01/boris-johnson-victim-emotions

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

4 minutes ago, incident said:

Why do you keep mentioning fertility?

I don't think anyone halfway credible is even contemplating that there might a link there, and I'm not convinced anyone worth listening to will even bother to study it unless as a response to or pre-emption of some Andrew Wakefield style bullshit / scaremongering . There was initially advice not to give the Pfizer jab to pregnant women, but that's because the scientists are if anything being over cautious not because there was any specific concern.

That's not to say there can't ever be a link - but given that the vaccines fundamentally work by simulating (a non infectious) part of the virus, it's extremely likely that if any issues are discovered down the line then the manifestation in the vaccine would be no worse than you could get from the virus itself.

Fertility is an example and it was used because it features in the documents published on .gov.uk so there is obviously some people more important than you or I who believe it's worth documenting. 

If you actually read what's being said my concern isn't a specific about fertility and I'm not saying there is a link, it's about the fact that there is no longevity to anyone who has had this vaccine. 

 

 

 

[Ryan1984]

8 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Anyone seen the new minister for vaccines ? He’s as quiet as the rest of them !! 

Christmas holidays?

Sure he’ll do the rounds on Monday... He doesn’t appear to be as bad as the rest of them but he’s not one to normally shy away from the spotlight.

[zahidf]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Israel have already vaccinated 1/9 of their population in just over a week whereas we are faffing around with it like it’s a 9-5 job.

 

We need a 24/7 rapid vaccine programme ASAP. 

Tbf we are third best behind Israel and Bahrain and much ahead of other countries. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Ryan1984 said:

Christmas holidays?

Sure he’ll do the rounds on Monday... He doesn’t appear to be as bad as the rest of them but he’s not one to normally shy away from the spotlight.

I guess I agree as I’ve not seen him 🙂 

[Ryan1984]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Israel have already vaccinated 1/9 of their population in just over a week whereas we are faffing around with it like it’s a 9-5 job.

 

We need a 24/7 rapid vaccine programme ASAP. 

Is that 1/9 of a priority list like ours or the whole family population?

[zahidf]

10 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Anyone seen the new minister for vaccines ? He’s as quiet as the rest of them !! 

He was on channel 4 and bbc news 2 days ago

[zahidf]

Looollll 

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Is that 1/9 of a priority list like ours or the whole family population?

10% of the whole population

[zero000]

17 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

2 things, what’s an A&E SHO?

And I wonder if cameras were allowed in the ICUs if that would help with this kind of thing?

A doctor, usually a couple of years post qualifying. 
 

Very sobering images. These people are morons. 

[zahidf]

Mental

 

[incident]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Mental

 

Surely this has to be prosecuted as attempted murder?

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, incident said:

Surely this has to be prosecuted as attempted murder?

Id hope so

[steviewevie]

Pretty interesting thread about UK economic hit from covid etc...

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Ryan1984]

I think we can all keep our fingers crossed that this won’t be the new version of Boris’s 2nd January (because he’s so damn lazy) post from last year about how 2020 is going to be great.

[Matt42]

Another U turn. Can someone explain to me why this government is the government of U Turns. What’s the strategy here?

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

I think we can all keep our fingers crossed that this won’t be the new version of Boris’s 2nd January (because he’s so damn lazy) post from last year about how 2020 is going to be great.

very important senate election in Georgia next week, could make a big difference to what Biden can do...and even if democrats win both Georgia seats Biden is going to have a massive task ahead of him.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

Another U turn. Can someone explain to me why this government is the government of U Turns. What’s the strategy here?

U turn on what?

[charlierc]

New Year's Eve being my birthday means I usually see a lot of fun looking content to mark it, be it big fireworks or glam looking parties or whatever. So a quarantine birthday/NY just felt super fucking weird. It was a nice day - just ate all the snacks, got a delicious looking cake from my brother and re-watched Taskmaster. On its own terms, that's good fun, but I doubt I would've expected my late 20's to have such a moment. Unless I'm now going along with the meme jokingly suggesting my 20's now end when I turn 34.

It is weird tbf. I entered 2019 and 2020 with expectations of decent years and found the first disappointing and the second an outright disaster. Surely I'm not the only one starting this year with low expectations to be revised upwards if things begin to get better in spring?

[Matt42]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

U turn on what?

Primary Schools according to the guardian