When will this shit end?

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/france-to-step-up-covid-jabs-after-claims-of-bowing-to-anti-vaxxers

I think we will see less uptake as we work down through the age groups here.

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

I think we will see less uptake as we work down through the age groups here.

Possibly ... although we do seem like quite a pro vaccine country comparitively ... u may also get a bit of a sheep effect as people see that others haven’t got controlled by bill gates or grown 2 heads 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

13 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Possibly ... although we do seem like quite a pro vaccine country comparitively ... u may also get a bit of a sheep effect as people see that others haven’t got controlled by bill gates or grown 2 heads 

Its possible to be sceptical of the current vaccines and not be anti vaccines. 

I think it's a big disingenuous to discount the other worries people have about the vaccines due to there being no data around things impact in fertility etc... I'm not keen on the idea of a jab myself and I'm really not keen on my son having it he's 10 and got his whole life to live and Covid is of such a minute risk to him it almost doesn't feel worth it with such little information. He's had all his other injections which have stood the test of time. 

[Copperface]

1 hour ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

I think you’re right, looked into it and there are 4m doses ready but not enough glass vials, hopefully it’s something they can sort out as that would be mega frustrating if it’s what ends up holding it back!

The telegraph does say there are definitely now a million ready for Monday, though.

Given the specialist glass vial shortage issue was highlighted a few times earlier last year, and it looks like no real action has resolved it since then, I wouldn't put much more faith in the Government's logistical efforts at this short notice. Although it isn't something that is particularly easy to do on the scale needed at short notice, they should have properly acknowledged the logistical challenges rather than cheerlead a raft of unrealistic expectations.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-mass-rollout-of-uk-vaccine-could-be-delayed-by-years-b666108.html

https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233675-when-will-this-shit-end/?do=findComment&comment=6012809

https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233675-when-will-this-shit-end/?do=findComment&comment=6014210

 

 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Its possible to be sceptical of the current vaccines and not be anti vaccines. 

I think it's a big disingenuous to discount the other worries people have about the vaccines due to there being no data around things impact in fertility etc... I'm not keen on the idea of a jab myself and I'm really not keen on my son having it he's 10 and got his whole life to live and Covid is of such a minute risk to him it almost doesn't feel worth it with such little information. He's had all his other injections which have stood the test of time. 

I dont think thats quite what Was saying .... I was saying as more people get it ... then more will follow and become less nervous of possible side effects .... I wasnt saying that people shouldn't look at other factors that would influence personal decisions 

[Leyrulion]

4 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Its possible to be sceptical of the current vaccines and not be anti vaccines. 

I think it's a big disingenuous to discount the other worries people have about the vaccines due to there being no data around things impact in fertility etc... I'm not keen on the idea of a jab myself and I'm really not keen on my son having it he's 10 and got his whole life to live and Covid is of such a minute risk to him it almost doesn't feel worth it with such little information. He's had all his other injections which have stood the test of time. 

This is being an anti vaxxer. 🤣🤣

You can have your view but don't pretend you're not an anti vaxxer. You've just written a whole paragraph explaining why you are.

[Guest]

Today’s figures:

Edited January 1, 2021 by Ozanne

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Today’s figures:

massive again ... similar to yesterday though so maybe at the peak ... although Christmas numbers still to come arent they ?

[ace56blaa]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

massive again ... similar to yesterday though so maybe at the peak ... although Christmas numbers still to come arent they ?

Yeah christmas will start factoring in soon. Also today there's no deaths or admissions data from scotland, I think that will be the case the next few days apparently

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

massive again ... similar to yesterday though so maybe at the peak ... although Christmas numbers still to come arent they ?

I’d say we’d start to see Christmas numbers from a few days time now. 

[Copperface]

9 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

This is being an anti vaxxer. 🤣🤣

You can have your view but don't pretend you're not an anti vaxxer. You've just written a whole paragraph explaining why you are.

Having concerns about a particular vaccine for a variety of reasons (maybe perceived lack of information, or misinformation) is not the same as being strictly opposed to vaccinations per se.

 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, ace56blaa said:

Yeah christmas will start factoring in soon. Also today there's no deaths or admissions data from scotland, I think that will be the case the next few days apparently

we might hopefully start to get a drop-off in infections from London going into Tier 4 .... and being as it accounts for some large numbers that might take the numbers down a little overall with other places still climbing until they hit that peak .... SE went in a few days later so that may hopefully drop soon too 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

5 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

This is being an anti vaxxer. 🤣🤣

You can have your view but don't pretend you're not an anti vaxxer. You've just written a whole paragraph explaining why you are.

The entire paragraph explains concern about these particular vaccines not all vaccines. 

 

 

 

 

[ace56blaa]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

we might hopefully start to get a drop-off in infections from London going into Tier 4 .... and being as it accounts for some large numbers that might take the numbers down a little overall with other places still climbing until they hit that peak .... SE went in a few days later so that may hopefully drop soon too 

I in SE and the amount of people i know who tested positive recently is insane, i don't think that will start going down for another week or so cause of xmas mixing

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, ace56blaa said:

I in SE and the amount of people i know who tested positive recently is insane, i don't think that will start going down for another week or so cause of xmas mixing

it was about 4 days behind London wasnt it ?  fingers crossed .... my sis in kent is saying similar 

[Copperface]

2 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

The entire paragraph explains concern about these particular vaccines not all vaccines. 

 

 

 

 

Technically does come under the 'anti vaxxer' banner, but it is understandable if you have concerns. Lots of people have.

The kicker is that all the information is out there if you want it. Ask for it if you need to, but don't dismiss vaccinations based on what Dave off Twitter says.

[zahidf]

30 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Its possible to be sceptical of the current vaccines and not be anti vaccines. 

I think it's a big disingenuous to discount the other worries people have about the vaccines due to there being no data around things impact in fertility etc... I'm not keen on the idea of a jab myself and I'm really not keen on my son having it he's 10 and got his whole life to live and Covid is of such a minute risk to him it almost doesn't feel worth it with such little information. He's had all his other injections which have stood the test of time. 

Under 16s aren't getting it anyway.

[stuartbert two hats]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Under 16s aren't getting it anyway.

There's no current plan for them to.

[efcfanwirral]

This is a worrying chart...

[ShakeyCrash]

55 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Possibly ... although we do seem like quite a pro vaccine country comparitively ... u may also get a bit of a sheep effect as people see that others haven’t got controlled by bill gates or grown 2 heads 

You joke but my wife had the vaccine last week and blue screened last night!

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

3 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Technically does come under the 'anti vaxxer' banner, but it is understandable if you have concerns. Lots of people have.

The kicker is that all the information is out there if you want it. Ask for it if you need to, but don't dismiss vaccinations based on what Dave off Twitter says.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

I know all the information is out there. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be able to make informed decisions about things which may have a significant impact on their life going forward. 

Just now, zahidf said:

Under 16s aren't getting it anyway.

At the moment - but that time might change. So again I think it's important to let people have the information and judge it in their own personal context. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, ShakeyCrash said:

You joke but my wife had the vaccine last week and blue screened last night!

ah yep apologies shakey ... unfortunately there will be some cases like this won't there ? how is she ? 

[Fuzzy Afro]

3 minutes ago, ShakeyCrash said:

You joke but my wife had the vaccine last week and blue screened last night!

Have her Microsoft excel skills improved?

[Copperface]

3 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

I know all the information is out there. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be able to make informed decisions about things which may have a significant impact on their life going forward. 

At the moment - but that time might change. So again I think it's important to let people have the information and judge it in their own personal context. 

That's fair enough and your choice. You might be disadvantaged by that choice, but it's your choice to make. 

[ShakeyCrash]

She’s fine. Just needed the latest Windows updates