When will this shit end?

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

1 minute ago, charlierc said:

New Year's Eve being my birthday means I usually see a lot of fun looking content to mark it, be it big fireworks or glam looking parties or whatever. So a quarantine birthday/NY just felt super fucking weird. It was a nice day - just ate all the snacks, got a delicious looking cake from my brother and re-watched Taskmaster. On its own terms, that's good fun, but I doubt I would've expected my late 20's to have such a moment. Unless I'm now going along with the meme jokingly suggesting my 20's now end when I turn 34.

It is weird tbf. I entered 2019 and 2020 with expectations of decent years and found the first disappointing and the second an outright disaster. Surely I'm not the only one starting this year with low expectations to be revised upwards if things begin to get better in spring?

Well I’ve been very, very cautious about saying anything along the lines of 2021 being better than 2020.

I’d rather expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised, it seems like tempting fate to expect anything else considering just how unexpectedly bad 2020 was. 

[charlierc]

 

18 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Mental

 

Oh for fucks sake.

I'm genuinely puzzled as to why we've created this into a political issue, and how we can have a track record of vaccines eradicating or severely wiping out infectious disease, and what happens when people stop taking them in the case of measles, but that apparently that's not enough. Its just weird.

[steviewevie]

Just now, charlierc said:

New Year's Eve being my birthday means I usually see a lot of fun looking content to mark it, be it big fireworks or glam looking parties or whatever. So a quarantine birthday/NY just felt super fucking weird. It was a nice day - just ate all the snacks, got a delicious looking cake from my brother and re-watched Taskmaster. On its own terms, that's good fun, but I doubt I would've expected my late 20's to have such a moment. Unless I'm now going along with the meme jokingly suggesting my 20's now end when I turn 34.

It is weird tbf. I entered 2019 and 2020 with expectations of decent years and found the first disappointing and the second an outright disaster. Surely I'm not the only one starting this year with low expectations to be revised upwards if things begin to get better in spring?

Happy Birthday for yesterday!

With vaccine rollout things should improve, hopefully from late winter or early spring onwards. I am a bit sceptical about the govt's ability to do this vaccine rollout smoothly, but hopefully there won't be too many fuckups and most vulnerable people will have been vaccinated by easter. This is truly a global problem though, and recovery will be uneven, so people need to be patient and help each other.

[charlierc]

1 minute ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Well I’ve been very, very cautious about saying anything along the lines of 2021 being better than 2020.

I’d rather expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised, it seems like tempting fate to expect anything else considering just how unexpectedly bad 2020 was. 

It changes how you think about it to be fair. I've seen a lot of people putting faith into 2021 being amazing when the signs point to January and February in particular being an extension of this shitshow that came before.

I'll revise my expectations for 2021 as we go but in truth, assuming the vaccine roll-out isn't bodged, I think 2022 will be the year where things feel like they're properly on the road to the good times again.

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Primary Schools according to the guardian 

All london primary schools...

[steviewevie]

I really don't know why Gavin Williamson is still in charge of education.

[charlierc]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Happy Birthday for yesterday!

With vaccine rollout things should improve, hopefully from late winter or early spring onwards. I am a bit sceptical about the govt's ability to do this vaccine rollout smoothly, but hopefully there won't be too many fuckups and most vulnerable people will have been vaccinated by easter. This is truly a global problem though, and recovery will be uneven, so people need to be patient and help each other.

Why thank you. Hopefully things will be better by December 2021 so the next birthday is better than this.

I'd like to think that at some point, we'll start to see the effect of vaccination and we'll see a recovery. I do agree about the fact that this is a global issue will cause a ripple effect of other consequences, given some countries are at the back of the queue for getting vaccine doses and even some areas are quite slow in how they hand them out. As far as the UK element goes, we just have to hope this country implements the roll out of vaccining people better than they've done pretty much everything else so far.

[Crazyfool01]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

All london primary schools...

will that not mean all  primary schools soon then ... although obviously we will wait a little while to announce it .... 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Why thank you. Hopefully things will be better by December 2021 so the next birthday is better than this.

I'd like to think that at some point, we'll start to see the effect of vaccination and we'll see a recovery. I do agree about the fact that this is a global issue will cause a ripple effect of other consequences, given some countries are at the back of the queue for getting vaccine doses and even some areas are quite slow in how they hand them out. As far as the UK element goes, we just have to hope this country implements the roll out of vaccining people better than they've done pretty much everything else so far.

you share the same birthday as my mum, she turned 90 yesterday! Haven't seen her for the whole of 2020...makes me really sad, but hopefully in a few months she'd have had a jab in her arm and I can visit her.

[shoptildrop]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Bunch of twats

 

This people should be so f**king ashamed of themselves, okay you don't believe in it but harassing hospital staff on NYE of all times is disgraceful!!

I hope the whole lot of them are named and shamed for being arseholes 😞 

[st dan]

13 minutes ago, shoptildrop said:

This people should be so f**king ashamed of themselves, okay you don't believe in it but harassing hospital staff on NYE of all times is disgraceful!!

I hope the whole lot of them are named and shamed for being arseholes 😞 

If they are so sure it’s a hoax, they should all sign a disclaimer to receive ‘no treatment’ if they do catch Covid and end up in hospital. 

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, st dan said:

If they are so sure it’s a hoax, they should all sign a disclaimer to receive ‘no treatment’ if they do catch Covid and end up in hospital. 

kind of fits well with this bollocks 😞 

 

 

[charlierc]

22 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

you share the same birthday as my mum, she turned 90 yesterday! Haven't seen her for the whole of 2020...makes me really sad, but hopefully in a few months she'd have had a jab in her arm and I can visit her.

Fingers crossed. All we can do in this weird time.

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Bunch of twats

 

That's scary. Especially as we know their views are shared by many others around the country 

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, charlierc said:

It changes how you think about it to be fair. I've seen a lot of people putting faith into 2021 being amazing when the signs point to January and February in particular being an extension of this shitshow that came before.

I'll revise my expectations for 2021 as we go but in truth, assuming the vaccine roll-out isn't bodged, I think 2022 will be the year where things feel like they're properly on the road to the good times again.

I’ll just take ‘better than 2020,’ which seems plausible especially as the year rolls along. And given that it’s setting such a low bar.

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

I really don't know why Gavin Williamson is still in charge of education.

They’re not going to sack anyone until this is over. Then they’ll have their sacrificial lambs ready.

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Pretty interesting thread about UK economic hit from covid etc...

 

Interesting, cheers

[waltere]

1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Israel have already vaccinated 1/9 of their population in just over a week whereas we are faffing around with it like it’s a 9-5 job.

 

We need a 24/7 rapid vaccine programme ASAP. 

Wider point is fair enough, but worth mentioning that Israel has a population just over 10% of that of the UK, so comparing on proportion of population vaccinated isn't really fair.

[charlierc]

2 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

I’ll just take ‘better than 2020,’ which seems plausible especially as the year rolls along. And given that it’s setting such a low bar.

Yeah. I feel like the best approach is that it'll be a sliding scale of gradual improvement, where things improve the longer we continue but where we're not just going to get an instant "Hooray it's all over" kind of moment.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, waltere said:

Wider point is fair enough, but worth mentioning that Israel has a population just over 10% of that of the UK, so comparing on proportion of population vaccinated isn't really fair.

plus, it is the holey land.

[steviewevie]

Piers Corbyn is running for london mayor.

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by steviewevie

[Mr.Tease]

It's been bizarre, the lack of advice-seeking from asian countries that have had better success than us at treating this- is it a colonial-style mindset that prevented it or could no western country be arsed? 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

It's been bizarre, the lack of advice-seeking from asian countries that have had better success than us at treating this- is it a colonial-style mindset that prevented it or could no western country be arsed? 

I think too late, it's just fire fighting now...and hopefully lessons learned for next time.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

It's been bizarre, the lack of advice-seeking from asian countries that have had better success than us at treating this- is it a colonial-style mindset that prevented it or could no western country be arsed? 

It's British exceptionalism for us, the government assume we are better than those countries or at least think they are better than governments of those countries and as such refuse to look to them for help. For all of Corbyns faults I am 100% confident he would've handled this pandemic better than Johnson.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

 For all of Corbyns faults I am 100% confident he would've handled this pandemic better than Johnson.

Maybe he would have made his brother health secretary.