When will this shit end?

[northernringo]

NI Executive to discuss a 6 week lockdown (with a 4 week review) starting on Xmas eve but not affecting Xmas bubbles.

Figures up today so I understand why but it is going to be awful for those in hospitality/non-essential retail.

[Copperface]

I missed bits of Hancock's Commons appearance as I was driving but I think I heard him mentioning something about the mass vaccination centres not being opened for several weeks yet, as they were designed to be used with the Oxford/AZ vaccine. 

Obviously a bit concerning in two aspects - when will AZ be approved , and the possible slippage in predicted vaccination capacity ie any targets for phase 1 vaccination will have slipped by another few weeks.

Can't see it written down anywhere but definitely remember something along those lines.

[Homer]

Gove live on bbc now: chances of a deal are less than 50%.

[zahidf]

 

[Homer]

I don’t understand why the brexiteers are so obsessed with Fish? I’ve just checked and his album sales only make up a tiny percentage of our GDP
 

i’m here all week, try the...

[zahidf]

Heres the rapid test Spanish gig

 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/primavera-sound-hold-successful-trial-for-live-music-events-without-social-distancing-2841244

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

back to normal by end of April then...?

[zahidf]

Just now, steviewevie said:

back to normal by end of April then...?

Maybe, though im thinking that they are giving some leeway to themselves. Due to be reviewed end of Jan anyway

[DeanoL]

1 hour ago, priest17 said:

 

"When will this Government let those in the North die of COVID like those in London are allowed to?"

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

back to normal by end of April then...?

It’s almost like we won’t see complete normality by Easter.

[northernringo]

26 minutes ago, northernringo said:

NI Executive to discuss a 6 week lockdown (with a 4 week review) starting on Xmas eve but not affecting Xmas bubbles.

Figures up today so I understand why but it is going to be awful for those in hospitality/non-essential retail.

From the sounds of it, this could be quite a hard lockdown...

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Maybe, though im thinking that they are giving some leeway to themselves. Due to be reviewed end of Jan anyway

when they extend till end of June?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, northernringo said:

From the sounds of it, this could be quite a hard lockdown...

That’s what she said. 

[priest17]

8 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

"When will this Government let those in the North die of COVID like those in London are allowed to?"

Liverpool seems to be doing alright? 

[Euphoricape]

30 minutes ago, northernringo said:

NI Executive to discuss a 6 week lockdown (with a 4 week review) starting on Xmas eve but not affecting Xmas bubbles.

Figures up today so I understand why but it is going to be awful for those in hospitality/non-essential retail.

When are we going to hear talk of England doing the same...?

[Copperface]

15 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Heres the rapid test Spanish gig

 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/primavera-sound-hold-successful-trial-for-live-music-events-without-social-distancing-2841244

15 minutes. Not 15 seconds.

[stuartbert two hats]

12 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

"When will this Government let those in the North die of COVID like those in London are allowed to?"

I've generally been supportive of Burnham in all this, but the numbers don't suggest in the slightest that Tier 2 would be safe in GM. It's a recipe for exponential growth.

[steviewevie]

Sweden has a king?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/17/king-sweden-failed-covid-strategy-rare-royal-rebuke-lockdown-hospitals-cases

[Gilgamesh69]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Sweden has a king?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/17/king-sweden-failed-covid-strategy-rare-royal-rebuke-lockdown-hospitals-cases

Yeah, i've heard he's a mad lad

[Crazyfool01]

13 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It’s almost like we won’t see complete normality by Easter.

Jobs and economy are obviously going to take longer .... as for the rest we will see I guess 

[st dan]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Sweden has a king?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/17/king-sweden-failed-covid-strategy-rare-royal-rebuke-lockdown-hospitals-cases

The self proclaimed king of Sweden 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I've generally been supportive of Burnham in all this, but the numbers don't suggest in the slightest that Tier 2 would be safe in GM. It's a recipe for exponential growth.

 

[zahidf]

16 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It’s almost like we won’t see complete normality by Easter.

Treasury says its so it can comply with 45 days notice period. So if furlough is removed at the budget...

Lets see though anyway. I personally think lockdown compliance past February wont be good

 

[DeanoL]

2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I've generally been supportive of Burnham in all this, but the numbers don't suggest in the slightest that Tier 2 would be safe in GM. It's a recipe for exponential growth.

I was being a bit arch as he has a point that places are being treated differently based on if they're North or South (or maybe if they argued with the government).

But it plays into that narrative that lockdown is bad and a punishment, when lockdown is to protect people in that area from dying.

There's a lot more to it, and I've certainly argued as much in terms of the Christmas loosening of restrictions being needed, but you can't get round the fact that more people are going to die if an area is in Tier 2 than if it's in Tier 3. Regardless of how "well" it's doing.

Obviously there's a degree of balancing that against the economy but it's just that, a balance. Burnham has been almost entirely one-note throughout this, only seeming to care about having the loosest restrictions possible for Manchester. At no point has he even engaged with the fact that looser restrictions mean more deaths. More deaths of the people of Manchester.

[funkychick2007]

@crazyfool1 is Taunton and west Somerset still Tier 2, sedgemoor is and North Somerset is going down to Tier 2!! Work is so busy I can’t keep up with the thread!! Thanks!! 👍🏻🎄