2020 headliners

[the wonderwhy]

I think anyone who went to any Hyde Park show in 2015 was getting in for a fiver tbh 

[strummer77]

1 hour ago, tigger123 said:

A Hyde park show that they essentially gave away a load of tickets for though, I saw them there for free off the back of a £5 charity donation and it definitely still wasn’t a fully sold out crowd 

 

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Also fair.

 

This was the same for Blur that year though and they headline.

[nikkic]

5 hours ago, strummer77 said:

 

 

This was the same for Blur that year though and they headline.

Difference with Blur is that they played Hyde Park 4 times in 7 years.

The only show which didn’t sell out was the last one. 

The Strokes failed to sell out their one and only Hyde Park gig and they had to give tickets away to make it less embarrassing.

 

[Guest]

Not really got much to contribute in the way of headliner news, but afer catching up on the thread I would just like to reiterate my stance that the Sun can fuck right off.   

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, nikkic said:

The Strokes failed to sell out their one and only Hyde Park gig and they had to give tickets away to make it less embarrassing.
 

Doesn’t really make @the wonderwhy’s point any less valid. People putting them on a platform with LCD Soundsystem would surely have to accept that the prospect of LCD Soundsystem headlining Hyde Park is ludicrous whereas The Strokes doing it, even if they had a discount ticket offer, isn’t.

[mcshed]

11 hours ago, dentalplan said:

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Like, yeah a lot of acts deemed big enough to headline APE would have to be about Other Stage headline size but that doesn't mean it can't pick acts off a higher shelf. Or a lower one, considering BMTH played about 3pm on the Other Stage at Glastonbury.

Correlation doesn't equal causation but what's being remarked here is the correlation. APE headliners and Other headliners have a lot of cross-over as they are a similar level of prestige.

[FloorFiller]

1 hour ago, dentalplan said:

Doesn’t really make @the wonderwhy’s point any less valid. People putting them on a platform with LCD Soundsystem would surely have to accept that the prospect of LCD Soundsystem headlining Hyde Park is ludicrous whereas The Strokes doing it, even if they had a discount ticket offer, isn’t.

Maybe my memory's wrong but I'm pretty sure most on here where questioning whether The Strokes could sell a gig as big as Hyde Park at the time. They definitely weren't the calibre of act people were expecting for BST, and then they struggled to sell tickets, proving everybody right. If All Points East sometimes pick from a higher calibre of headliners then BST certainly went lower for The Strokes that year. Are we also gonna forget that Massive Attack did it the following year?

[the wonderwhy]

The more telling thing is that they're headlining every single festival they've been announced for, all over the world, and in almost every case have commanded their own announcement. And that's been the situation for at least a decade.  

So clearly there's a lot of people out there making decisions who see them as a solid headliner booking. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Their current clout is probably cos they're now a nostalgia act for folk who were in their teens / at Uni when Is This It came out. Not so wildly different from The Killers.

[Matt42]

9 minutes ago, the wonderwhy said:

The more telling thing is that they're headlining every single festival they've been announced for, all over the world, and in almost every case have commanded their own announcement. And that's been the situation for at least a decade.  

So clearly there's a lot of people out there making decisions who see them as a solid headliner booking. 

Exactly this. They go where they are still a big deal and they play festivals where they are still a front and centre act.

It would be dramatically out of character for them to now headline the other stage or something like that. There are no signs pointing to them stopping this touring strategy of theirs at all.

[SwedgeAntilles]

8 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Their current clout is probably cos they're now a nostalgia act for folk who were in their teens / at Uni when Is This It came out. Not so wildly different from The Killers.

This is a pretty solid comparison. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Strap in for the Kings of Leon revival.

[FloorFiller]

Just now, Matt42 said:

Exactly this. They go where they are still a big deal and they play festivals where they are still a front and centre act.

It would be dramatically out of character for them to now headline the other stage or something like that. There are no signs pointing to them stopping this touring strategy of theirs at all.

Played second fiddle at TITP all those years ago, but judging on how ridiculously strong the lineup was that year the bookers were clearly just throwing money around like it was nothing. Still though, it proves they don't mind playing lower (and not even being last on) if the opportunity is right, so who knows what Glastonbury could've thrown their way.

Again, not that I think it'll happen, but if it could happen any year then this is the one. If not, we can stop bringing up The Strokes forever.  

[CaledonianGonzo]

Coming up for 10 years ago, that. It's not a static situation.

[Quark]

35 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

This is a pretty solid comparison. 

I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff.  I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs?

[Doug85]

1 minute ago, Quark said:

I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff.  I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs?

This is true, Killers were more commercial IMO, they were certainly on the radio more over the years.

[Hugh Jass]

2 minutes ago, Quark said:

I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff.  I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs?

Agreed, The Strokes were big in indie circles but The Killers crosses into the mainstream with Mr Brightside.

[Doug85]

Kings Of Leon seriously can't be anywhere near Glastonbury these days. They only really accept headline level and they are not going to be headlining Glastonbury again anytime soon.

Edited January 24, 2020 by Doug85

[CaledonianGonzo]

2 minutes ago, Doug85 said:

Kings Of Leon seriously can't be anywhere near Glastonbury these days. They only really accept headline level and they are not going to be headlining Glastonbury again anytime soon.

So just like The Strokes 😋

[Sasperella]

51 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Strap in for the Kings of Leon revival.

Don't. Just, don't. 

[Hugh Jass]

14 minutes ago, Doug85 said:

Kings Of Leon seriously can't be anywhere near Glastonbury these days. They only really accept headline level and they are not going to be headlining Glastonbury again anytime soon.

We said that about the Killers.

Never say never.

[cdm22]

 So just like The Strokes 😋

 

They are both boring live so yes 😁

 

*runs away quickly*

Edited January 24, 2020 by cdm22

[Sasperella]

15 minutes ago, Quark said:

I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff.  I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs?

As a obnoxious grunger who refused to listen to pretty much anything but nu-metal and NIN between 2001 and 2004, I can confirm that this is true. 

I hated their fucking "iconic" album cover with a passion though. 

[the wonderwhy]

Its a bit weird that the blanket assumption is The Strokes et al are turning down stuff they feel is below them when its more likely just the people who actually book these things still see them as the same safe booking they all were ten years ago. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

18 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

We said that about the Killers.

Never say never.

But we can say Not in 2020