2020 headliners

[Smeble]

7 hours ago, shuttlep said:

I love Elbow , but I love them more on a Saturday afternoon Pyramid slot 

Their park set a few years ago was wonderful, nice atmosphere before due to it being a secret set ( I was the only one around me that had heard it was them) and they were fantastic.

[Hugh Jass]

2 hours ago, dentalplan said:

They’re the biggest they’ve been since Room on Fire imo. I think people are just willing their stock to go down so they can play a non-headline slot.

I tend to agree but just playing Devil’s Advocate for a sec... CATQ and Tame Impala have both headlined the Other and APE in the last year. Is APE a good indicator of Other size?

[dentalplan]

13 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I tend to agree but just playing Devil’s Advocate for a sec... CATQ and Tame Impala have both headlined the Other and APE in the last year. Is APE a good indicator of Other size?

No, not really. There are six acts headlining; I don't think it's reasonable to think that every act playing must be on a level because they're headlining the same festival - and I'd probably extend that to any festival. But even to those who do think that, what does it say that The Strokes sold it out a couple of months before, while last year's Other Stage headliners Christine and the Queens seemed to pull in terrible sales?

Edited January 23, 2020 by dentalplan

[the wonderwhy]

They're pretty much the only ones to have sold it out as well. Nick Cave did but it was like the day of. 

[Hugh Jass]

3 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

No, not really. There's six acts headlining; I don't think it's reasonable to think that every act playing must be on a level because they're headlining the same festival - and I'd probably extend that to any festival. But even to those who do think that, what does it say that The Strokes sold it out a couple of months before, while last year's Other Stage headliners Christine and the Queens seemed to pull in terrible sales?

I don’t think it’s a terrible yardstick. Obviously some shows sell better than others but there have been a number of acts over the last two years of APE who have either headlined the Other - CATQ, LCD, Tame Impala, Chems... or wouldn’t look out of place doing so - Cave, The National, Bjork, The Xx....

Looks a fair indicator to me.

[dentalplan]

Just now, Hugh Jass said:

I don’t think it’s a terrible yardstick. Obviously some shows sell better than others but there have been a number of acts over the last two years of APE who have either headlined the Other - CATQ, LCD, Tame Impala, Chems... or wouldn’t look out of place doing so - Cave, The National, Bjork, The Xx....

Looks a fair indicator to me.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Like, yeah a lot of acts deemed big enough to headline APE would have to be about Other Stage headline size but that doesn't mean it can't pick acts off a higher shelf. Or a lower one, considering BMTH played about 3pm on the Other Stage at Glastonbury.

[Damon]

6 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

Indeed, Juicebox is the best thing they’ve ever done IMO. Just a shame the album tails off so badly.

Juicebox is a belter.

[FloorFiller]

18 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Like, yeah a lot of acts deemed big enough to headline APE would have to be about Other Stage headline size but that doesn't mean it can't pick acts off a higher shelf. Or a lower one, considering BMTH played about 3pm on the Other Stage at Glastonbury.

Although Emily has claimed that they've picked acts off a higher shelf for the Other Stage headliners this year soo...*

 

* Still don't think it is gonna be them. Just sayin'.

[utwothefly]

A lot of love for the strokes here, saw them way back and they are the worst band I’ve ever seen live. Like most of you I’ve seen over 200 bands and artists and they were really disappointing. Anyway I’d give them a second go... 

[Damon]

2 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Although Emily has claimed that they've picked acts off a higher shelf for the Other Stage headliners this year soo...*

 

* Still don't think it is gonna be them. Just sayin'.

Blondie are doing a festival in the states in May, are they still big enough? I'd see them in a heartbeat!

[CaledonianGonzo]

Blondie were second on a few years back, so doubt they'll headline any time soon.

[FloorFiller]

2 minutes ago, utwothefly said:

A lot of love for the strokes here, saw them way back and they are the worst band I’ve ever seen live. Like most of you I’ve seen over 200 bands and artists and they were really disappointing. Anyway I’d give them a second go... 

Saw them at Primavera in 2015 and agree that they were shite. Unfortunately they're playing there yet again this year and so I'm having to give them a second shot against my own will. Would be happy if they were booked for Glastonbury as it'd be one less clash I'd have to worry about.

[Damon]

5 minutes ago, utwothefly said:

A lot of love for the strokes here, saw them way back and they are the worst band I’ve ever seen live. Like most of you I’ve seen over 200 bands and artists and they were really disappointing. Anyway I’d give them a second go... 

Currently listening to them and forgot how good some of the tracks actually are, seeing them at Prima this year so hoping they put on a performance, I've heard they're hit and miss!

[CaledonianGonzo]

How / why I've managed to see Strokey and the lads 5 or 6 times over the years I've got no idea.

[Hugh Jass]

35 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Like, yeah a lot of acts deemed big enough to headline APE would have to be about Other Stage headline size but that doesn't mean it can't pick acts off a higher shelf. Or a lower one, considering BMTH played about 3pm on the Other Stage at Glastonbury.

Of course they can pick acts off of higher/lower shelves. But of the 14 announced headliners for APE in the last two in a bit years at least 9 by my count either have headlined the Other or could without raising too many eyebrows. Even the capacities of both venues are broadly similar.

Not an exact science as you say but broadly speaking I’d say headlining APE puts a band in the ballpark for the Other (obviously with exceptions).

[Hugh Jass]

12 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Saw them at Primavera in 2015 and agree that they were shite. Unfortunately they're playing there yet again this year and so I'm having to give them a second shot against my own will. Would be happy if they were booked for Glastonbury as it'd be one less clash I'd have to worry about.

Saw them at BST the same year and have to admit I thought they were ace. As was Beck who supported, but you never get a bad set from that guy.

[dentalplan]

18 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Although Emily has claimed that they've picked acts off a higher shelf for the Other Stage headliners this year soo...*

 

* Still don't think it is gonna be them. Just sayin'.

Fair point duly noted.

12 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Saw them at Primavera in 2015 and agree that they were shite. Unfortunately they're playing there yet again this year and so I'm having to give them a second shot against my own will. Would be happy if they were booked for Glastonbury as it'd be one less clash I'd have to worry about.

Wtf go see something else it's fucking Primavera lol

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

Of course they can pick acts off of higher/lower shelves. But of the 14 announced headliners for APE in the last two in a bit years at least 9 by my count either have headlined the Other or could without raising too many eyebrows. Even the capacities of both venues are broadly similar.

Not an exact science as you say but broadly speaking I’d say headlining APE puts a band in the ballpark for the Other (obviously with exceptions).

If we're just gonna be repeating ourselves then I'm gonna say "correlation does not equal causation" again because I thought it was clever. The Strokes accepting a second stage headline slot in 2020 because Tame Impala would in 2019 doesn't fit.

[the wonderwhy]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

I don’t think it’s a terrible yardstick. Obviously some shows sell better than others but there have been a number of acts over the last two years of APE who have either headlined the Other - CATQ, LCD, Tame Impala, Chems... or wouldn’t look out of place doing so - Cave, The National, Bjork, The Xx....

Looks a fair indicator to me.

To be fair The Strokes have also done a Hyde Park show within the last five years and I don't really think any of that lot could get close to doing that. 

[Hugh Jass]

Just now, the wonderwhy said:

To be fair The Strokes have also done a Hyde Park show within the last five years and I don't really think any of that lot could get close to doing that. 

Fair.

[the wonderwhy]

but anyway how about we ask the drummer if they're playing again?  

[SwedgeAntilles]

Never trust a drummer. 

[dentalplan]

19 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

Never trust a drummer. 

What if he doesn't miss a beat?

[the wonderwhy]

should've asked the bassist 

[tigger123]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Fair.

A Hyde park show that they essentially gave away a load of tickets for though, I saw them there for free off the back of a £5 charity donation and it definitely still wasn’t a fully sold out crowd 

[Hugh Jass]

22 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

A Hyde park show that they essentially gave away a load of tickets for though, I saw them there for free off the back of a £5 charity donation and it definitely still wasn’t a fully sold out crowd 

Also fair.