2019 Headliners

[henry bear]

4 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Be interesting to see what sort of reaction they get if they reformed, they were looking very much a spent force by the end (although I maintain Collapse Into Now was great) - gigs not selling out, venues being downgraded...  If they came back now the reunion hype could probably land them a headline slot at BST. 

It would yeah. I guess the longer they leave it, the more legendary they’d become and thoughts of those last few years would ebb away. I don’t think they’d reach the heights again though, for all their success in the 1990’s, they don’t seem particularly influential, or a name to drop for younger people. Would love the chance to see them again, always brilliant live.

[CJTM]

Just now, JoeyT said:

I could get on board with this.

Would probably do something else Friday night, like 2015 after Dave's leg it free'd it up.

I wanted to see Christy Moore on Acoustic Stage as something different, but none of my 20-30 strong group were bothered… ended up getting slaughtered at Libertines and seeing Enter Shikari in JPT… some fella outside the tent gave me his Cookie Monster helmet from a suit and I ran into the pit.

The lack of holes for eyes was brutal.

Gaga Saturday Pyramid & The Streets Sunday Other for me, can I get an amen.

[nikkic]

I think I probably missed this info, so apologies, but what was the actual reason for Macca pulling out? 

Do we know? And is there any info pointing towards him being there next year instead? 

[PDAD]

12 minutes ago, CJTM said:

Still trust info on Wolf Alice turning it down is still accurate due to them having a break, but at the time I was told they might do a few random to test new stuff, like they did with Euro last year (Benicassim springs to mind)… think they will wait for LP3 for Glastonbury 2020.

Wolf Alice are headlining Truck festival end of July so they are about this summer. But yeah, it could be a one off.

[CJTM]

1 minute ago, nikkic said:

I think I probably missed this info, so apologies, but what was the actual reason for Macca pulling out? 

Do we know? And is there any info pointing towards him being there next year instead? 

Announced show(s) in Vegas weekend of Glastonbury 

[dentalplan]

11 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Yeah they've always been pretty adamant that they would never do it, but I suppose things change, bills pile up, etc...

Be interesting to see what sort of reaction they get if they reformed, they were looking very much a spent force by the end (although I maintain Collapse Into Now was great) - gigs not selling out, venues being downgraded...  If they came back now the reunion hype could probably land them a headline slot at BST. 

Bookers with money are chasing them. They clearly all like each other still, like performing still, etc. I initially thought they were a case of finally being done with music after a long career but I’m convinced it’s only a matter of time until they do shows again with all the interest in reuniting them. You don’t really hear bookers speak about trying to reunite many other bands anymore.

I think they’d do stadia if they returned. Looking at the types that are doing them now, R.E.M on a reunion could easily do that yeah. And I think they’d be happy to play Glastonbury again (if the promoters let them).

[nikkic]

4 minutes ago, CJTM said:

Announced show(s) in Vegas weekend of Glastonbury 

Yeah I saw that. 

What I meant was did he actually pull out of Glasto? Or was he never actually in the frame? 

[CJTM]

4 minutes ago, nikkic said:

Yeah I saw that. 

What I meant was did he actually pull out of Glasto? Or was he never actually in the frame? 

Not sure on that front, @eFestivals had info a few months back. I would just be guessing

[Yokel Again]

Can't see REM doing it - Stipe always sounds pretty adamant on the subject and it always felt they all have a bit more integrity than most, with regards to both their success and failures.

They'd still do stadiums - Accelerate tour was in Twickenham. (Having said that, I'm not sure it sold out, and I'm sure the Millenium Stadium was only half the stadium in around 05 ish tour).

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, CJTM said:

Not sure on that front, @eFestivals had info a few months back. I would just be guessing

soz, missed who you're talking about....? 

[jyoung]

32 minutes ago, CJTM said:

Stormzy / Elbow

Gaga / Chem Bros

The Cure / The Streets
 

Absolutely no need to bring Elbow into this.

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, Yokel Again said:

Can't see REM doing it - Stipe always sounds pretty adamant on the subject and it always felt they all have a bit more integrity than most, with regards to both their success and failures.

They'd still do stadiums - Accelerate tour was in Twickenham. (Having said that, I'm not sure it sold out, and I'm sure the Millenium Stadium was only half the stadium in around 05 ish tour).

Wasn't their last gig in Cardiff downgraded from the Milennium to the Cardiff City one?

[CJTM]

Just now, eFestivals said:

soz, missed who you're talking about....? 

Reason why Macca pulled out, or was he ever booked

[CJTM]

2 minutes ago, jyoung said:

Absolutely no need to bring Elbow into this.

Apart from their touring schedule

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, CJTM said:

Reason why Macca pulled out, or was he ever booked

ahh, I've no idea if he was ever booked or trying to be booked - tho that delay in filling his USA dates over Glasto weekend was definitely very suggestive.

With a bit of luck I might get to find out if it was ever on the cards somewhen (tho don't go holding your breath).

[Yokel Again]

13 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Wasn't their last gig in Cardiff downgraded from the Milennium to the Cardiff City one?

Could well have been, they played in the arena according to setlist FM. Accelerate was a great tour though. 

Around the Sun tour - not so good, and I love them. 

[Hugh Jass]

My take, going purely by what we know in terms of Neil's info, Macca's dates, the BST rumour and Emily's comments, is that they were at the very least talking to him and probably got as far as making an offer. Maybe the Eavii were hopeful/confident that it would be accepted but for whatever reason he didn't. Maybe Vegas made a better offer, maybe he simply didn't fancy coming back over here for a gig or two over two weeks and preferred to stay in the US all summer.

Edited February 5, 2019 by Hugh Jass

[nysmaw]

27 minutes ago, PDAD said:

Wolf Alice are headlining Truck festival end of July so they are about this summer. But yeah, it could be a one off.

From their instagram:

So far they only announced Truck Festival and Standon Calling, both of which they'll headline.

[CJTM]

3 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

ahh, I've no idea if he was ever booked or trying to be booked - tho that delay in filling his USA dates over Glasto weekend was definitely very suggestive.

With a bit of luck I might get to find out if it was ever on the cards somewhen (tho don't go holding your breath).

My pal in the biz who happens to be a big Macca fan said all along he reckoned there was always more US dates after the CA ones, that's the way his team markets it... altho I intended to not pay attention as I didn't want to hear it.

Just a big tease on our behalf tho 

[henry bear]

22 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Wasn't their last gig in Cardiff downgraded from the Milennium to the Cardiff City one?

Downgraded to the 7k capacity CIA - now the Motorpoint.

I saw them at the Millennium Stadium in 2005 and they’d put a huge black curtain across the middle of it, effectively halving the capacity. It wasn’t a downgrade, it was always planned that way and they did a few concerts there using that, but I don’t think they do now.

[ghostdancer1]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

ahh, I've no idea if he was ever booked or trying to be booked - tho that delay in filling his USA dates over Glasto weekend was definitely very suggestive.

With a bit of luck I might get to find out if it was ever on the cards somewhen (tho don't go holding your breath).

I don't think it was at all tbf.

look at his twitter, they've been dripping out these gigs over several months. I'd imagine the Vegas gig has been booked a long time ago, acts of McCartney's size tend to begin planning and booking tour logistics over a year in advance.

GFL may well have been talking to him at some point, but I think the chances that he was ever "booked" and cancelled are almost nil. Simple explanation is that he had never signed up, never cancelled, and this gig was always planned. I can't see them signing a legally binding contract, presumably with financial implications/penalties of cancelling, and then suddenly realising that they're in the middle of a US tour and it makes better sense to play in Vegas a few days after playing down the road in Arizona.

e: And I see they've just recently added a date up the coast in Vancouver on 6th July, a week after Vegas/29th/Glasto weekend, which they would have had no reason to hold back if he was playing Glastonbury, and just further ties into the drip-feed of gigs.

Edited February 5, 2019 by ghostdancer1

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, ghostdancer1 said:

I don't think it was at all tbf.

look at his twitter, they've been dripping out these gigs over several months. I'd imagine the Vegas gig has been booked a long time ago, acts of McCartney's size tend to begin planning and booking tour logistics over a year in advance.

while dates might have dribbled out over time, they took a definite stop for a while with dates announced to just before Glasto.

it was definitely suggestive. Whether there was anything behind it is a different thing.  

4 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

GFL may well have been talking to him at some point, but I think the chances that he was ever "booked" and cancelled are almost nil.

oh, I don't think he was booked and cancelled.

My thinking is that if he was in the frame then they'd have been talking, but those talks didn't lead to an agreement for whatever reasons. 

 

[Phoenix Girl]

I doubt many acts actually sign a contract then cancel - there are probably terms in the contract that stop them doing this apart from under certain specific circumstances (otherwise - legal consequences). Macca could have been negotiating his contract and not been happy with a certain part of it (not necessarily the fee) and chose to pull out of the negotiation before signing. I’m sure it happens frequently with the bigger stars.

Edited February 5, 2019 by Phoenix Girl
And when I say Macca, I mean his huge legal team

[eFestivals]

or just a change of plans. It doesn't necessarily have to be about money.

 

[Matt42]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Girl said:

I doubt many acts actually sign a contract then cancel - there are probably terms in the contract that stop them doing this apart from under certain specific circumstances (otherwise - legal consequences). Macca could have been negotiating his contract and not been happy with a certain part of it (not necessarily the fee) and chose to pull out of the negotiation before signing. I’m sure it happens frequently with the bigger stars.

I’m studying contract law and I have no idea lol. My guess would be that he never signed the dotted line.

I imagine most “pull outs” in the conventional sense are when the band has not signed the dotted line. Pulling out of something when you’ve signed a contract is muddy waters. I need to go back to my books