Bob Vylan Chants

[tarw]

13 minutes ago, Nicklord said:

The difference is that Hamas and Hezbollah (and Iran and some other groups) made it very clear what they mean by that slogan. It's not just giving the land to the Palestinian people to govern. 

What does Netanyahu mean by that slogan?

[Nicklord]

31 minutes ago, tarw said:

What does Netanyahu mean by that slogan?

He means the same as Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran - you can just swap Palestine and Jewish people. You're like the 5th person trying to tell me I'm on the Israeli side. Netanyahu should be in jail awaiting trial right now, along with nearly his entire cabinet. They're war criminals and are committing genocide right now.

 

I think I'm pretty clear what I mean. It's easy to criticize Israel and not be antisemitic. In fact, hundreds (literally) of acts did it over the weekend and didn't get into any trouble.

 

[tarw]

4 minutes ago, Nicklord said:

He means the same as Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran - you can just swap Palestine and Jewish people. You're like the 5th person trying to tell me I'm on the Israeli side. Netanyahu should be in jail awaiting trial right now, along with nearly his entire cabinet. They're war criminals and are committing genocide right now.

 

I think I'm pretty clear what I mean. It's easy to criticize Israel and not be antisemitic. In fact, hundreds (literally) of acts did it over the weekend and didn't get into any trouble.

 

Sorry I wasn’t accusing you of being one sided over this (unlike some). Just pointing out that it’s not just one side that uses that awful phrase, as you have expanded. 

[Threestripes]

2 hours ago, Colorblindjames said:

Flying an Israeli flag at present is an indication that you are cool with genocide. 

Where do you even start with something like this?

So on the flip side if you wave a Palestine flag your cool with supporting terrorists who raped and murdered over 1000 kids at nova festival.

 

Something btw not one person in here has called out the person on this thread that said it never happened.

Tells you everything.

 

[Spindles]

11 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

Something btw not one person in here has called out the person on this thread that said it never happened.

Nobody has made that claim.  You have ascribed it to people who never said it.

 

People have, however, reacted to the claims that hundreds of children were raped and killed at the Nova festival, which was a lie.  Hundreds of people were killed, no one is excusing or denying that, but the exaggeration that was made was deservedly denied.

[The Nal]

So they've been dropped by The United Talent Agency and has their US Visa revoked for their "hateful tirade at Glastonbury"

[BobMahelp]

1 hour ago, DeanoL said:

I'm honestly not sure how we get to the idea that *not* supporting Israel's right to exist is antisemitic. Post WW2 the European powers essentially gave Israel a bunch of land that wasn't their to give in the first place. 

 

While personally I'm in support of a two-state solution, I don't think to have the opinion that actually, Israel shouldn't be there at all is antisemitic. That's a discussion of boundaries and land and has nothing to do with ones opinion on the actual people involved. 

 

Again, thinking Northern Ireland shouldn't exist doesn't mean I think every Northern Irish person needs to die. Just that a different political settlement is needed.

 

Why on earth, after everything that the Jewish community has been through in WW2, would anyone dream of thinking that they shouldn’t have ONE safe space on earth to call home and know that they won’t be persecuted or marginalised?

[WforWill]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

So they've been dropped by The United Talent Agency and has their US Visa revoked for their "hateful tirade at Glastonbury"

Good

 

[BobMahelp]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

So they've been dropped by The United Talent Agency and has their US Visa revoked for their "hateful tirade at Glastonbury"

I’ve not seen the whole video but why exactly has the drummer been tarred with the same brush here? From the bit I saw it was all on the front man 

[narwhal]

17 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

Where do you even start with something like this?

So on the flip side if you wave a Palestine flag your cool with supporting terrorists who raped and murdered over 1000 kids at nova festival.

 

Something btw not one person in here has called out the person on this thread that said it never happened.

Tells you everything.

 

Thousands of "kids" (most of the casualties were likely over 18 owing to the nature of the festival) weren't raped or killed at the Nova festival.

 

The death toll from the Nova festival was 378. Can you cite the source that confirms thousands of children were raped at the Nova festival please?  

[xxialac]

Just now, narwhal said:

Thousands of "kids" (most of the casualties were likely over 18 owing to the nature of the festival) weren't raped or killed at the Nova festival.

 

The death toll from the Nova festival was 378. Can you cite the source that confirms thousands of children were raped at the Nova festival please?  

WELL SAID!

 

The OP will say some nonsense about 20something adults being "kids" to him presumably.

And that the 1000 was a typo - not his fault. Or a malicious bit of hacking into his PC by someone from Gaza.

[Spindles]

Just now, xxialac said:

Or a malicious bit of hacking into his PC by someone from Gaza.

Got to watch them!  They are sneaky little sods, taking time out from being starved, displaced and murdered to alter the posts of the opportunistically outraged.

[BobMahelp]

4 minutes ago, narwhal said:

Thousands of "kids" (most of the casualties were likely over 18 owing to the nature of the festival) weren't raped or killed at the Nova festival.

 

The death toll from the Nova festival was 378. Can you cite the source that confirms thousands of children were raped at the Nova festival please?  

October 7th death toll was in the four figures (Nova festival was only part of the October 7th atrocities)

 

Is it possible that the kids that were allegedly raped and murdered according to the poster above were not Nova attendees but were raped and murdered as part of these attacks?

[Spindles]

2 minutes ago, BobMahelp said:

allegedly

Been doing a lot of heavy lifting of late, this little word.

[xxialac]

Just now, BobMahelp said:

October 7th death toll was in the four figures (Nova festival was only part of the October 7th atrocities)

 

Is it possible that the kids that were allegedly raped and murdered according to the poster above were not Nova attendees but were raped and murdered as part of these attacks?

?

 

36 kids were killed. The evidence is highly disputed as to whether there were sexual assaults or the extent of them.

 

36 is a long way off thousands and he also said "At Nova". 

 

And has the cheek to accuse others of false information!

[BobMahelp]

1 minute ago, xxialac said:

?

 

36 kids were killed. The evidence is highly disputed as to whether there were sexual assaults or the extent of them.

 

36 is a long way off thousands and he also said "At Nova". 

 

And has the cheek to accuse others of false information!

 

Thats 36 too many. And even if they weren’t sexually assaulted it hardly makes it ok!

[dicka]

The police have just announced that a criminal investigation has been lauched into Vylan's set at Glastonbury.

[hfuhruhurr]

20 Palestinians killed today. Silence from PM, some knob uses a clumsy rhyme in a song and total outrage. 

Ffs.

[xxialac]

2 minutes ago, BobMahelp said:

 

Thats 36 too many. And even if they weren’t sexually assaulted it hardly makes it ok!

Are you ok, mate?

[Spindles]

1 minute ago, dicka said:

The police have just announced that a criminal investigation has been lauched into Vylan's set at Glastonbury.

Damn, if only they could find witnesses.  It's not like anyone is denying what happened, just that many feel that there are bigger things we should be talking about than whether it's wrong to call for the death of an occupying army who are openly committing war crimes as they ethnically cleanse a population.

[CaledonianGonzo]

 

17 minutes ago, BobMahelp said:

 

Why on earth, after everything that the Jewish community has been through in WW2, would anyone dream of thinking that they shouldn’t have ONE safe space on earth to call home and know that they won’t be persecuted or marginalised?

 

Because they stole someone else's land to do it and have spent the decades since immiserating the indigenous population.  The holocaust was a European crime but it's the Palestinians who've ultimately paid the price for it.

[BobMahelp]

3 minutes ago, hfuhruhurr said:

20 Palestinians killed today. Silence from PM, some knob uses a clumsy rhyme in a song and total outrage. 

Ffs.

Politician in “sticking up for his ally countries” shocker!

[xxialac]

Recommend the recent doc from Louis Theroux on settlers though it’s a grim watch.

[BobMahelp]

1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

 

Because they stole someone else's land to do it and have spent the decades since immiserating the indigenous population.  The holocaust was a European crime but it's the Palestinians who've ultimately paid the price for it.

Where should the Holocaust surviving Jews have gone then? 
 

And don’t get me started on your last sentence which is horrifically anti-Semitic and bordering on holocaust denialism.

Edited June 30, 2025 by BobMahelp

[hfuhruhurr]

4 minutes ago, BobMahelp said:

Politician in “sticking up for his ally countries” shocker!

Bob, that made me laugh. If you're not laughing, then I'm sorry.