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Kneecap


CaledonianGonzo

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7 hours ago, wro_lap said:

To stay slightly more on-topic of Kneecap & whether they will appear at Glastonbury, the organiser of West Holts just tweeted this. I can't help but wonder if that's him sticking up for Kneecap "making injustice visible" and hinting that they will perform, without saying directly that they are, and hence causing a shitstorm in his replies.

 

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I'm sure its not a coincidence - but then I'm not sure if he's involved with booking the acts or whether he'll have any say in it.

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9 hours ago, lazyred said:

Is it true they also had a hezbollah flag? If so it was a planned provocation.

 

There's no sign of it in the video available.  Nor of leading the crowd in 'chants' that has been mentioned.

 

Someone in the crowd may have had one.  Easy to pick up if you've been to Lebanon, particularly the south or the Beqaa Valley.

 

 

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10 hours ago, wro_lap said:

To stay slightly more on-topic of Kneecap & whether they will appear at Glastonbury, the organiser of West Holts just tweeted this. I can't help but wonder if that's him sticking up for Kneecap "making injustice visible" and hinting that they will perform, without saying directly that they are, and hence causing a shitstorm in his replies.

 

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wasn't Gandhi also a bit of a racist pedo?

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30 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Already old news so I expect they're ok to play. Just hope no more videos come to light of them shouting f**k the monarchy or Bibi's a rotter.

 

Isn't the controversy (rightly or wrongly) over the MP/Tory comment + how outspoken they are over what's going on in Gaza?

 

It's hardly controversial to dislike the Monarchy at this point..

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Using the 6Music news bulletin as a yardstick, its already dropping down the headlines (yesterday it was leading the bulletin).

 

If nothing else surfaces into the weekend and the festival says nothing then I reckon folks will be getting their brits out down the front of WH come June.

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1 hour ago, foolee said:

They’ll have one of the biggest crowds of the weekend now too

 

I said this in a group the other day, it'll be a field closed off job.

 

Aren't they playing somewhere in Shangri La as well!?

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14 hours ago, she bangs the drums said:

Maybe Glastonbury needs to cancel Prodigy too, we would not want people to feel as though they need to Smack my bitch up?!

 

 

I was thinking this yesterday, I know there's probably some sort of distinction between a song lyric and something said on stage, but taken literally at face value, 'Smack my bitch up' is a disgusting statement that could be seen to encourage violence against women, which is a major problem in society and only takes one bad egg at a concert to take it literally. But we all understand it's not to be taken at face value, and noone interprets it that way.

Let's be consistent, lets cancel neil young for shooting his baby down by the river, or the libertines (pete's said and done many worse things than kneecap over the years), or cancel my ticket for jokes in my whatsapp chats to mates that would definitely see me sacked by any right thinking employer.....or we can just accept bands say mad sh*t, sometimes they probably shouldn't, they've apologised, and glastonbury censoring art due to right wing pressure is something that must be resisted at all costs

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12 hours ago, Mark E. Spliff said:

That list of artists supporting Kneecap is a good start.  95% of humanity are cowards who will do anything to keep their heads down with the herd.  Social media and the culture wars have weaponised this - all it takes is an orchestrated bleating of faux outrage, and the majority will back off and many will join the witch-hunt.  We need people to stand up and make their voice heard in order to counteract this.  Unfortunately, Glastonbury has moved from being a brave, principled, independent voice into a cowardly, populist weather-vane, so now more than ever, we need public figures to step up to the plate like this.

 

And for those of you still clutching your pearls about all this: when we used to protest about the pit closures, the poll tax, the CJA, one of the most common chants was 'kill, kill, kill the bill.'  There were similar slogans relating to Thatcher and Willy Whitelaw and so on.  None of us wasted our time navel-gazing about whether these constituted genuine death threats - we knew then, as you all know now, what they really were: rallying cries by angry people who just wanted to make their voice heard over the deafening roar of the right wing media.  Getting involved in this ridiculous navel-gazing, as many on here always do, is doing the right wing media's work for them free of charge.

 

Netanyahu, Trump, The Daily Mail, and all their fellow travellers never give one second's thought about whether restricting food, water and medicine to an entire population might be a little, you know - genocidey.  Why the hell should we start clutching our pearls about an outrageous punk band being outrageous?

I think the letter was great, and yeah like you said glastonbury has form of being a weather vane in the past few years, so you'd hope they read something like this and think "ok, Pulp, Massive Attack, Primal Scream etc would not be happy with us if we cancelled big bands due to right wing pressure", and that is surely a good thing for the festival

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14 minutes ago, mufcok said:

 

I said this in a group the other day, it'll be a field closed off job.

 

Aren't they playing somewhere in Shangri La as well!?

 

Yeah - the Shangers one will likely have to be re-thought.  WH not so much I wouldn't have said.

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3 hours ago, Suprefan said:

If they get pulled off the lineup its not gonna be a good look at all. At this point you should move them to a diff stage cause its gonna be a total sh*t show now. 

 

1 hour ago, foolee said:

They’ll have one of the biggest crowds of the weekend now too

They definitely need to be moved to the Other now, way too big for West Holts after all this attention 

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I dislike everything about them.  Shouty men who weren't even alive during the Troubles glorifying the IRA and giving the thumbs up to terrorists 🤮.

 

But I have no problem with them playing. I'll just be somewhere else, just like I was when Jeremy Corbyn stank out the field in 2017.

 

Hopefully they'll be on at the same time as Alanis Morissette.

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1 hour ago, foolee said:

They’ll have one of the biggest crowds of the weekend now too

 

Yeah, was surprised when I saw their placing on the West Holts poster and would expect this controversy to only make them more popular. That said, I'm not sure where they'd fit.

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44 minutes ago, Physical_graffiti said:

I was thinking this yesterday, I know there's probably some sort of distinction between a song lyric and something said on stage, but taken literally at face value, 'Smack my bitch up' is a disgusting statement that could be seen to encourage violence against women, which is a major problem in society and only takes one bad egg at a concert to take it literally. But we all understand it's not to be taken at face value, and noone interprets it that way.

Let's be consistent, lets cancel neil young for shooting his baby down by the river, or the libertines (pete's said and done many worse things than kneecap over the years), or cancel my ticket for jokes in my whatsapp chats to mates that would definitely see me sacked by any right thinking employer.....or we can just accept bands say mad sh*t, sometimes they probably shouldn't, they've apologised, and glastonbury censoring art due to right wing pressure is something that must be resisted at all costs

Pete Doherty (probably) saw a guy get killed and here we are.

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