When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

In their 10 years in power the Tories have blamed for their own failings:

- Lib Dems

- The EU

- Immigrants

- Corbyn

- Remainers

- Parliament

- The courts

- The young

- Dominic Cummings

 

Not once have they accepted any blame for anything, they are running out of people they can shift it too. Instead it's just them to blame for so many of the issues we see now today.

one constant is they're always in power.

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

one constant is they're always in power.

Good point, they know how to play the game of thrones.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, jparx said:

Can’t really celebrate this Cummings thing. There’s something going on here that’s probably going to be worse than DC staying in Downing Street. Highly suspicious.

I think it's politics...too many problems with backbenchers and others in government, and even the public...all made a lot worse since the surreal barnard castle thing.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

I think it's politics...too many problems with backbenchers and others in government, and even the public...all made a lot worse since the surreal barnard castle thing.

add to that list many in the civil service...

and...maybe they're about to make some compromises to get EU deal done which the vote leave crew couldn't stomach, who knows.

[squirrelarmy]

In all the excitement we’ve missed something...

[Toilet Duck]

Something that came up earlier in the thread (or maybe one of the previous COVID threads!) was the impact of chronobiology on immune function. Anyway, excellent pre-print out recently addressing this in over 300,000 patients. Long and short of it is that our white blood cells (basically immune cells) fluctuate daily and seasonally. We’ve suspected as much for a while, but nice to see a study of this size confirm it (I’m biased a bit as I went to college with one of the authors). What does it mean? Well, around now, our immune systems aren’t as good as they are when there’s more daylight. Helps to partly explain why we get more infections in winter (more opportunity too obviously as we are indoors more), but possibly contributing to the bigger peaks we are seeing now. Also suggests mornings are the best time for vaccinations (mornings in spring/summer even better). Might be worthwhile doing care home and older vaccinations early in the day, but probably too soon to be fully adapting this into clinical practice. Anyway, I think circadian rhythms are fascinating! 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.23.20218305v1.full.pdf

As ye were...
 

[parsonjack]

1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:

yep not great ... but a drop on yesterday .... 

....and % Positivity is down to c7.5% from c9.5% yesterday.

[parsonjack]

1 minute ago, Toilet Duck said:

Something that came up earlier in the thread (or maybe one of the previous COVID threads!) was the impact of chronobiology on immune function. Anyway, excellent pre-print out recently addressing this in over 300,000 patients. Long and short of it is that our white blood cells (basically immune cells) fluctuate daily and seasonally. We’ve suspected as much for a while, but nice to see a study of this size confirm it (I’m biased a bit as I went to college with one of the authors). What does it mean? Well, around now, our immune systems aren’t as good as they are when there’s more daylight. Helps to partly explain why we get more infections in winter (more opportunity too obviously as we are indoors more), but possibly contributing to the bigger peaks we are seeing now. Also suggests mornings are the best time for vaccinations (mornings in spring/summer even better). Might be worthwhile doing care home and older vaccinations early in the day, but probably too soon to be fully adapting this into clinical practice. Anyway, I think circadian rhythms are fascinating! 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.23.20218305v1.full.pdf

As ye were...
 

Interesting....does this have any relevance to the advice on taking Vitamin D as a potential CV19 prophylaxis?

[Punksnotdead]

26 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Yeah I don't feel good about this either. The people we really need to get out of Downing Street are the Tories.

From little acorns.....

[Homer]

26 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

he's our own little Steve Bannon.

Sadly that would be, Steve Bannon...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/22/video-reveals-steve-bannon-links-to-boris-johnson

Edited November 13, 2020 by Homer

[Toilet Duck]

5 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Interesting....does this have any relevance to the advice on taking Vitamin D as a potential CV19 prophylaxis?

It could certainly be linked at a molecular level (I’m sure it is), though vitamin d as a prophylactic is still uncertain. Clear links with vitamin d deficiency and poor outcomes, but we still don’t have definitive data on whether it is protective.

[zahidf]

 

[steviewevie]

It's all about Allegra apparently.

[shoptildrop]

2 hours ago, Copperface said:

Nobody is suggesting compulsory vaccination at the moment though, just making vaccination a condition of entry to certain things.

But that's it the article was about work places, so if you want to work it's pretty much making it compulsory 

Again I'll point out I'm all for vaccines I just think this is dodgy ground and needs an education approach (as crazyfool has stated has started) not forced one (which is what this will be)

[Mr.Tease]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's all about Allegra apparently.

Healthy media when there's a revolving door between senior BBC & ITV reporters and editors and working comms for the Tories

[Fuzzy Afro]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's all about Allegra apparently.

The hiring of Stratton left Cummings without Allegra stand on....

[Ozanne]

Labour have nailed the response. 

[shoptildrop]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

I'm no Cummings fan but I find it humorous that they are trying to paint the Governments failures on him and his Vote Leave crew. How many different people have now been blamed for Tory government issues now, it must be near double figures over the 10 years they've been in power? Whilst this is definitely good news, Boris Johnson is still our PM and is still utterly useless at the job.

Exactly and I fear it gives Boris a get out of free pass as "loveable" Boris will be back and they get their votes back

also, Cummings still working until 16th Dec on the moonshoot thing (probably giving a few more contracts to his friends) along with Cain

Plus, what's this distracting from - what's been agreed with EU this week??? other half said he read something about us agreeing to following same rules as EU for financial rule (sorry no links at mo) so does that mean we are conceding to follow the EU rules on common market and state aid? Because if we are that would upset Brexiteers and would be definitely something they would distract from

[Cherry Tree]

I think he has had a better offer from Trump, on his way to Washington on an overnight flight, Trump wants his three word phrases to overturn the election result as “Making America Great Again" had that one word too much. Trump has also promised that his wife has no interest in who he employs.

[Paul ™]

52 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

In all the excitement we’ve missed something...

Is it just me that has saved this image, put it in photoshop, turned up the brightness and looked for the 'hidden text' congratulating the true winner 'Neil' for all his efforts..... 

[shoptildrop]

1 hour ago, jparx said:

Can’t really celebrate this Cummings thing. There’s something going on here that’s probably going to be worse than DC staying in Downing Street. Highly suspicious.

This is defo distracting from something Brexit related I reckon  

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, shoptildrop said:

This is defo distracting from something Brexit related I reckon  

Apparently brexit is cancelled. Carrie doesn't like it.

Edited November 13, 2020 by steviewevie
apparently I can't spell apparently

[steviewevie]

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Matt Hancock also on the chopping block with Michael Gove to take over early 2021 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Matt Hancock also on the chopping block with Michael Gove to take over early 2021 

nah