When will this shit end?

[squirrelarmy]

10 minutes ago, Spindles said:

Well, looks like the next couple of weeks are going to be a media circus.  I need to stock up on popcorn.

Talking of popcorn check out the trailer for the new Borat film. It’s going to be so on the nose for 2020. 

[Spindles]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Talking of popcorn check out the trailer for the new Borat film. It’s going to be so on the nose for 2020. 

Which one?  I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but every day they announce the film with a different name and slightly different trailer.  Yesterdays was the one with bribe in the title, the day before it was Borat 2:Donald Trump and the day before that the title with pornographic monkey.  I think this in itself is a joke about disinformation but I could be reading too much into it.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Spindles

[stuartbert two hats]

6 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

As I understand it the 25th amendment only fills the presidency, not the vice presidency. That stays within the gift of whoever is president to nominate someone to be confirmed by the senate. So if Pence became President Pelosi would stay speaker unless there was a vacancy in the presidency.

So would Pence's new vice become president and Pelosi would only take over if Pres and VP were taken out before a new VP was installed?

[stuartbert two hats]

4 minutes ago, viberunner said:

What's Plan B? Herd immunity?

 

Well sure, he has broken the law many times. But so too have the other presidents, yes including Obama. Why do we not send them all to jail?

 

C19 is picking up a single letter mutation per fortnight, influenza picks up a mutation per week, HIV picks up two per week.

It's difficult to know if it'll outpace vaccines as we do not have a vaccine yet, it will depend on the mutations themselves, and we do not know how long we my have immunity (we have proof of reinfection after as little as 14 weeks).

And even if you're right, slow mutation, it's no like this vaccine has, like influenza, only go out to to a few groups. It needs to be rolled-out globally, as in every person on the planet. Heck of an undertaking.

I believe it's not just the rate of mutation, but which area .  My understanding is the vaccines are targeting the areas that are even less likely to mutate.  But yeah, the logistics are v. challenging, especially when you throw in a limited time of immunity from a shot.

But we'll beat it, I have no doubt, it's just the timeframes that are uncertain.

[eFestivals]

10 minutes ago, viberunner said:

(we have proof of reinfection after as little as 14 weeks).

we also have proof that's the exception and not the rule, and we also have proof of exceptions to immunity being normal.

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

we also have proof that's the exception and not the rule, and we also have proof of exceptions to immunity being normal.

I missed that. It's worth noting that we have no evidence of anyone developing symptoms relating to a reinfection.  At least not yet.

[Spindles]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

we also have proof that's the exception and not the rule, and we also have proof of exceptions to immunity being normal.

Yeah, I think it's also far too early to be drawing any conclusions from a few outliers, hard to view the few that have been documented as anything more than oddities.  A handful of cases out of the nearly 35 million recorded infections isn't really any kind of pattern you could glean useful information from I'd think.

[hogga]

12 minutes ago, viberunner said:

What's Plan B? Herd immunity?

 

 

If you read Toilet Duck's posts there is much more than just a vaccine and herd immunity that could get us back to the farm.

I agree it might not be next year but no one can say it definitely won't be at this stage. Why give up hope this early?

[Waterdeep]

3 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I missed that. It's worth noting that we have no evidence of anyone developing symptoms relating to a reinfection.  At least not yet.

A few have popped up, with varying degrees of severity.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Waterdeep said:

A few have popped up, with varying degrees of severity.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/

Oh, ok.  Thanks for the update.  Looks like I stand corrected.

[squirrelarmy]

20 minutes ago, Spindles said:

Which one?

This one is definitely on it’s way in a few weeks. The timing of the release isn’t accidental. 

[Leyrulion]

20 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

So would Pence's new vice become president and Pelosi would only take over if Pres and VP were taken out before a new VP was installed?

Yep, exactly that. I've just checked and it's a majority vote of both houses to appoint a new VP. 

[Ozanne]

@Zoo Music Girl Sorry to hear about your situation, it sounds like you have a cold however as your friend is undergoing treatment it probably is best to stay away I’d say. That’s what I would do anyway!

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Leyrulion said:

Yep, exactly that. I've just checked and it's a majority vote of both houses to appoint a new VP. 

So realistically, if Trump was out of action there wouldn't be a VP until January.  Interesting.

[stuartbert two hats]

13 minutes ago, Waterdeep said:

A few have popped up, with varying degrees of severity.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/

@Toilet DuckAny thoughts on these?  Seemingly quite a few getting more severe symptoms on reinfection.

[Spindles]

6 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

This one is definitely on it’s way in a few weeks. The timing of the release isn’t accidental. 

I think you misunderstand, I'm not saying the film isn't coming, but that they are releasing different trailers and names every day.

Yesterday's title was: Borat: Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan

Tuesday's title was: Borat 2: Donald Trump

Monday's title was: Borat: Gift of Pornographic Monkey to Vice Premiere Mikhael Pence to Make Benefit Recently Diminished Nation of Kazakhstan.

Before that it had been referred to as: Borat 2: Great Success 

 

I think they are playing a game with constantly providing different titles.

[Zoo Music Girl]

13 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

@Zoo Music Girl Sorry to hear about your situation, it sounds like you have a cold however as your friend is undergoing treatment it probably is best to stay away I’d say. That’s what I would do anyway!

Yeah I think you're right. As I say, if it wasn't for the Covid stuff making me worried about seeing her again this year I know I would probably cancel to be on the safe side. So that's what I should do. Thanks.

[JoeyT]

 

[squirrelarmy]

8 minutes ago, Spindles said:

I think you misunderstand, I'm not saying the film isn't coming, but that they are releasing different trailers and names every day.

I knew about the name change. Think that was just down to Amazon not wanting pornographic in the title. I haven’t seen any other trailers though, I’ll have a look around for them. 
 

Either way it’s going to cause huge political rumblings when it’s viewed by an American audience. 

[Toilet Duck]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

@Toilet DuckAny thoughts on these?  Seemingly quite a few getting more severe symptoms on reinfection.

Interval on some of the severe reinfections quite short, new infection or relapse? Most of these seem to be confirmed by genetic sequencing as different strains, but with a sample size this small, pretty hard to draw any firm conclusions. Simultaneous infection with 2 strains and one outlasted the other? Can only see the clinical details for 3 of the serious reinfections. 2 had COPD, the other was healthy (and pretty young). So, possibly clinical reasons why symptoms were worse second time around, but really, with so few cases, you could find all sorts of patterns and draw the wrong conclusion. 

 

[steviewevie]

4 years ago.

 

[steviewevie]

Coronavirus: Loss of smell may be clearer sign than cough

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54359852

[zahidf]

QAnon believers are apparently happy that Trump says he has COVID, because COVID is fake, so Trump is actually pulling a power move on the deep state, who think COVID is real because they created it as a power move on Trump.

 

That means Hillary is getting arrested.

[stuie]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

Talking of popcorn check out the trailer for the new Borat film. It’s going to be so on the nose for 2020. 

Can’t wait for this! 

[philipsteak]

33 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

I knew about the name change. Think that was just down to Amazon not wanting pornographic in the title. I haven’t seen any other trailers though, I’ll have a look around for them. 
 

Either way it’s going to cause huge political rumblings when it’s viewed by an American audience. 

Will it? Or will it just confirm what people want it to confirm. Can't imagine too many Trump supporters will watch it so they'll get it second hand through Fox News or worse where they'll just hear 'look what these godless leftists are saying about you now! Well you know how to wipe the smug laugh of their faces'