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When will this shit end?


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9 minutes ago, philipsteak said:

That's actually OK as per the rules/guidelines. If you've been pinged you are supposed to minimise contact with others in your house (eg, I'm staying in my room and using the kitchen when I know others aren't about) but unless you get a positive PCR or are showing symptoms, then others are free to carry on. Not saying it's correct, or even consistent, but then that's not really been a theme of the last year and a bit. Be a nightmare for my employers if we all had to isolate just based on getting alerted by the app. I live in one of 3 staff houses so that'd be a third of the staff taken out in one go

Yes wasn't saying that they were breaking any rules but if you eat at the same restaurant or cafe as someone but not with them you're highly unlikely to have caught it but if you have caught it the couple of days lag between you going out and getting the message your family that you live with would be more likely to pick it up from you than you would be from the original exposure based on the level of interaction. You've probably kissed your spouse and kids for example in that timeframe so it seems odd not to trust you to go out but let them move freely. 

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4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Isn't it officialy accepted that project fear was successful beyond all imagination?  

Is it? Has it been officially acknowledged anywhere that that's even what was happening? Genuine question, it just seems weird that we would have had official confirmation of any of that happening given we're still sort of in the position of wanting compliance at the moment.

 I know there have been leaks and stuff but I'm curious as to anything official on the whole "project fear" thing?

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Just now, steviewevie said:

surge in NE...

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Cases rising across the board sadly, we are so lucky we have these vaccines!

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1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

Is it? Has it been officially acknowledged anywhere that that's even what was happening? Genuine question, it just seems weird that we would have had official confirmation of any of that happening given we're still sort of in the position of wanting compliance at the moment.

 I know there have been leaks and stuff but I'm curious as to anything official on the whole "project fear" thing?

It’s literally in the SAGE minutes from March 2020. 

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20 minutes ago, gigpusher said:

Yes wasn't saying that they were breaking any rules but if you eat at the same restaurant or cafe as someone but not with them you're highly unlikely to have caught it but if you have caught it the couple of days lag between you going out and getting the message your family that you live with would be more likely to pick it up from you than you would be from the original exposure based on the level of interaction. You've probably kissed your spouse and kids for example in that timeframe so it seems odd not to trust you to go out but let them move freely. 

Oh yeah, it's all bonkers. None of it makes sense. Even after a negative test I'm still supposed to see out my isolation because I was once in the vicinity of a person who may not have had covid at the time but then went on to test positive. And I've had 2 jabs. Bonkers.

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17 minutes ago, philipsteak said:

Oh yeah, it's all bonkers. None of it makes sense. Even after a negative test I'm still supposed to see out my isolation because I was once in the vicinity of a person who may not have had covid at the time but then went on to test positive. And I've had 2 jabs. Bonkers.

Yes she was in the same boat. Had to self isolate for 10 days despite 2 negative tests and being fully vaccinated but her husband and son were going out for meals at pubs and getting her takeaways. The day she had been at the cafe she'd posted a photo of the family all cheek to cheek so if she did have it then they would have as well. I realise there are some practicalities that we are trying to manage but some of the decision making is just weird. 

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