When will this shit end?

[Toilet Duck]

J&J have put in their CMA submission to the EMA...could be rolled out by March if approval timeline follows the others (and it’s a fairly straightforward dataset compared to OX/AZ)...parallel vaccination programmes if that one gets though with later groups moved swiftly up the list I’d imagine! 

[xxialac]

1 minute ago, Toilet Duck said:

J&J have put in their CMA submission to the EMA...could be rolled out by March if approval timeline follows the others (and it’s a fairly straightforward dataset compared to OX/AZ)...parallel vaccination programmes if that one gets though with later groups moved swiftly up the list I’d imagine! 

Isn't that the one shot one?
Could EU countries effectively catch up with the UK, if they only to do one shot?

[stuartbert two hats]

45 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

There we go. That's not noise this time.

[Simsy]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Wow - that must have been weird? You missed a lot of the first lockdown here?

Got back at Easter, so still had quite a bit of lockdown here. Indian lockdown was more strict - could only go outside to get food or for medical treatment, so we spent a lot of time watching netflix and eating takeaway.

It's funny looking back at my Google maps timeline, starts off like "I'm traveling around the world, my life's so exciting" and suddenly becomes "I haven't been outside for several days"!

[Ryan1984]

This doesn’t seem great?

[stuartbert two hats]

6 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

This doesn’t seem great?

But we had a couple of reports on here yesterday of asthmatics being invited for a vaccine. Is this happening?

[Fuzzy Afro]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

But we had a couple of reports on here yesterday of asthmatics being invited for a vaccine. Is this happening?

 

11 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

This doesn’t seem great?

It’s to do with how serious your asthma is. If you have severe asthma you should have already been offered a vaccine (and should be shielding). If you require medication to control your asthma or have ever had an emergency hospital admission then you’ll be in group 6 and should be getting vaccinated soon.

 

The idea is to remove mild asthmatics like my sister who have absolutely no business being vaccinated soon. 

[stuartbert two hats]

7 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

But we had a couple of reports on here yesterday of asthmatics being invited for a vaccine. Is this happening?

Maybe it's a brand new policy and some of yesterday's invites were sent before the change had been made, or some areas are just doing their own thing.

[duke88]

7 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

But we had a couple of reports on here yesterday of asthmatics being invited for a vaccine. Is this happening?

I think before pretty much everyone with asthma was on the list, but now it’s just if you meet certain criteria

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

But we had a couple of reports on here yesterday of asthmatics being invited for a vaccine. Is this happening?

From what I can see it looks like the JVCI have said there isn’t enough risk of death, but that’s just from the comments in that Tweet. 

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

 

It’s to do with how serious your asthma is. If you have severe asthma you should have already been offered a vaccine (and should be shielding). If you require medication to control your asthma or have ever had an emergency hospital admission then you’ll be in group 6 and should be getting vaccinated soon.

 

The idea is to remove mild asthmatics like my sister who have absolutely no business being vaccinated soon. 

My brother has very mild asthma. Definitely the kind of person to be excluded according to today's announcement.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:

My brother has very mild asthma. Definitely the kind of person to be excluded according to today's announcement.

Yeah my sister hasn’t even used her inhaler in years

[stuartbert two hats]

This is odd to be defending this government again, but it looks like they might be simply re-prioritising, not just trying to cut the numbers artificially to hit a target.

 

Edited February 16, 2021 by stuartbert two hats

[Toilet Duck]

28 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Isn't that the one shot one?
Could EU countries effectively catch up with the UK, if they only to do one shot?

Yep, currently one shot, could end up getting a booster later in the year when the results of their 2 shot trial arrive, but even at 1 shot, 100% protection from severe disease and death...that’ll do pig!

[xxialac]

8 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Yep, currently one shot, could end up getting a booster later in the year when the results of their 2 shot trial arrive, but even at 1 shot, 100% protection from severe disease and death...that’ll do pig!

Lovely stuff, thanks.

[zahidf]

18 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Maybe it's a brand new policy and some of yesterday's invites were sent before the change had been made, or some areas are just doing their own thing.

Yeah my friend was invited 

[Avalon_Fields]

Update from my recent post on the Manchester vaccination centres: You may not believe this but we’re on the 50s age group today, most we did today were between 55 and 65, some even younger. I think we must be ahead of much of the country but it’s looking amazing from what I see. Yet it’s supposed to be the UK only starting the 65+ this week so I don’t know if we’re the exception or they’re not declaring the full stats. 

[efcfanwirral]

 

36 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

My brother has very mild asthma. Definitely the kind of person to be excluded according to today's announcement.

 

34 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Yeah my sister hasn’t even used her inhaler in years

My girlfriend is the same - we had no idea she was in that group previously, just assumed she wouldn't be. 

29 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

This is odd to be defending this government again, but it looks like they might be simply re-prioritising, not just trying to cut the numbers artificially to hit a target.

 

I reckon this will make a huge difference to hospitalisations when things open up more, there's been a lot of anecdotal talk about many younger in ICU being...larger...so this makes so much sense. 

[efcfanwirral]

30 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Yep, currently one shot, could end up getting a booster later in the year when the results of their 2 shot trial arrive, but even at 1 shot, 100% protection from severe disease and death...that’ll do pig!

Ah so their booster isn't within a certain timeframe? Surely the same here if so, one dose for younger people ASAP. 

When does UK expect delivery does anyone know? Assuming approval won't be far off 

[parsonjack]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

yeah...India altogether is amazing...but on first day getting lost in Mumbai probably wasn't the best start. Looked simple on map, so didn't take it, doh. It's definitely a shock to the system that place, sensory overload, but you get used to it after a while. I would say that my missus wasn't so taken with India, I think much easier being male. Oh, and be careful what you eat!

Delhi 2003....first morning we walked to the station to buy our rail tickets to Agra and got collared by some young lads touting for a travel agency in a tuktuk.  Took a detour to lose them at a junction and without noticing stepped over something on the pavement.  Turned round to look and it was a nicely shrouded corpse lying there in the fuggy heat.

Welcome to India......the maddest most amazing trip we've ever taken.  I long to return.

[zahidf]

 

[JB15]

Are the U.K. under playing how far ahead we are with the vaccinations so they don’t get into a war of words with the EU again? Or is it under promising and over delivering?

 

Either way, my dad and step dad were jabbed last weekend slightly earlier than the government announcement to go to 65-69, and my soon to be mother and father in law are being jabbed tomorrow, one of them is in the 60-64 group

[parsonjack]

1 hour ago, Smeble said:

India is as mad as a box of frogs, a total sensory overload. You just have to watch where you walk. 

Ha this...read my last post 🤣

[efcfanwirral]

Just now, zahidf said:

 

IF that happens, I'd hope for full opening 3 weeks after dose 1 for the under 40s

[zahidf]

Just now, efcfanwirral said:

IF that happens, I'd hope for full opening 3 weeks after dose 1 for the under 40s

I dont see why we shouldn't tbh.