When will this shit end?

[xxialac]

1 minute ago, Punksnotdead said:

Every single voter should be forced to watch this - they would surely never vote for the bumbling cretin again.

Worst. Prime. Minister. Ever.

The selling point of Johnson before he was elected - amazingly - was that he was a great communicator.

He has no ability to inspire confidence and no ability to speak clearly - he's a charmless, one man waffle machine.

[eFestivals]

Just now, WestCountryGirl said:

I don't know why I am still shocked by this approach, but why the fuck is Boris admitting that there could be tougher restrictions in a few weeks, when they must know full well it would be more beneificial to introduce them now?!

madness, innit?

[zahidf]

 

[WestCountryGirl]

Just now, eFestivals said:

madness, innit?

Absolutely. They don't even need foresight in this case - they have nearly 12 months of hindsight to work with, and even that isn't enough.

[Fuzzy Afro]

School is going to be a right farce tomorrow. Unions telling teachers not to bother turning up using section 44. So you’ll have very low attendance among both pupils and teachers. 

[dingbat2]

We know it is going to get harder in the next few weeks and tighter restrictions will be needed, so let's wait until then to give the virus a head start, and let's schools go back to give the virus another helping hand. Cretin

[eFestivals]

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If AZ could ramp up production he says distribution could increase to 5m a week.

I don't understand that bit. They can shift as many units as they can make. Why wouldn't they be ramping up production, and why only 5M a week?

 

[xxialac]

Johnson:

Pathological liar.

Pathological delayer of decisions until it is too late.

Pathological ****.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

I don't understand that bit. They can shift as many units as they can make. Why wouldn't they be ramping up production, and why only 5M a week?

 

Vials availability maybe ? 

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

I don't understand that bit. They can shift as many units as they can make. Why wouldn't they be ramping up production, and why only 5M a week?

 

I think the "could" means on practical terms rather than in terms of whether they want to.

[zahidf]

 

[stuartbert two hats]

10 minutes ago, WestCountryGirl said:

I don't know why I am still shocked by this approach, but why the fuck is Boris admitting that there could be tougher restrictions in a few weeks, when they must know full well it would be more beneificial to introduce them now?!

Yeah. Let the hospitals fill up first.

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

Vials availability maybe ? 

I accept there might be pinch points that need to be overcome, but vials availability can be as big as anyone wants it to be somewhen down the line. It doesn't have to be fixed at 5m.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

 

I’ve been wondering why Moderna wasn’t approved yet. @Toilet Duck is it just the case that the regulators are taking their sweet time safe in the knowledge that we don’t get any doses until the spring anyway so there’s no point in rushing it through? 

[tigger123]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Unfortunately, it doesn't really matter when Moderna is approved, as long as its approved by the spring, as we won't be getting our first doses until then, given we only ordered our doses a few weeks ago

[Andre91]

They’re already caked in it but he will have insurmountable blood on his hands within the coming weeks. 
 

[stuartbert two hats]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

The Moderna approval in the UK is somewhat moot, considering we're not going to get any until the spring.

Edit: looks like I'm a little late with this point!

Edited January 3, 2021 by stuartbert two hats

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I think the "could" means on practical terms rather than in terms of whether they want to.

but the 'practical terms' is merely deciding to do it, and getting the infrastructure to do it in place.

It might take time to do, but it's without-doubt doable and they should be doing it. So it it shouldn't be 'could', it should be 'we are' while saying it takes time.

[WestCountryGirl]

1 minute ago, Andre91 said:

They’re already caked in it but he will have insurmountable blood on his hands within the coming weeks. 
 

Any decisions the government eventually stagger to over the next few weeks will be like putting a plaster on a knife wound.

[Crazyfool01]

It’s like they don’t want to use the words national lockdown because it’s a bad image to portray ... Tier 5 is going to be schools isn’t it? Anything else ?  .... but they will leave the odd area out just so they can say it’s not a national lockdown 

[zahidf]

 

[Toilet Duck]

20 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’ve been wondering why Moderna wasn’t approved yet. @Toilet Duck is it just the case that the regulators are taking their sweet time safe in the knowledge that we don’t get any doses until the spring anyway so there’s no point in rushing it through? 

I’d hazard a guess that they prioritised those that would be available alright. In principle, once approved, other biotech firms could start to manufacture the Moderna one as they have said they won’t enforce their patent during the pandemic, but might be easier to cut a deal with them to make their vaccine. BioNTech have more manufacturers lined up to start producing their one shortly, Lonza are making the Moderna one in Europe, but there are plenty of other companies that could pivot to vaccine production. Need as many places as possible cranking out approved shots. 

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

I’d hazard a guess that they prioritised those that would be available alright. In principle, once approved, other biotech firms could start to manufacture the Moderna one as they have said they won’t enforce their patent during the pandemic, but might be easier to cut a deal with them to make their vaccine. BioNTech have more manufacturers lined up to start producing their one shortly, Lonza are making the Moderna one in Europe, but there are plenty of other companies that could pivot to vaccine production. Need as many places as possible cranking out approved shots. 

Aren't Moderna locked into only supplying the US until Spring?

[charlierc]

42 minutes ago, xxialac said:

The selling point of Johnson before he was elected - amazingly - was that he was a great communicator.

He has no ability to inspire confidence and no ability to speak clearly - he's a charmless, one man waffle machine.

That's something I've never got. Just because you can use long words and abstract similes doesn't make you a good communicator, and I should know given I've been criticised for doing both in chats with friends in the past. It might work for dinner parties or writing long-winded opinion columns but it doesn't work when faced with a massive crisis, and well, this is one and its just not working.

But its a variation on a theme - it amazes me that we have a government featuring former journalists in prominent positions, have expensive PR teams and spin doctors at their beck & call and have spent most of the last year being the only real organisation buying advertising space on TV/online/radio/print/billboards, and yet the communication is so consistently terrible. Its just bizarre.

[zahidf]

Tony Blair calls for introduction of 'vaccination stations'

Tony Blair has called for the introduction of “vaccination stations” modelled on polling stations as part of a massive effort to accelerate the rollout of the jab, along with cutting limits on pharmacy distribution and using unoccupied office space as places to administer the vaccine.

Among other measures he proposes, the former prime minister also says that a minimum of 30,000 additional vaccinators are needed and suggests a single platform should be adopted for a “Covid pass” that would allow any individual to quickly show their status on testing and whether they have been vaccinated.

“Though it is true that the NHS is doing a herculean effort in vaccinating as many as they have, it is simply not sufficient,” he said.

“We have to treble at least the number of vaccinations by end of January when enough supplies of the vaccine should be available to allow us to do that.”

Updated at 10.36am