When will this shit end?

[Gingerfish79]

 

[oneeye]

1 minute ago, kalifire said:

At least we're over the most dangerous periods, Christmas and New Year. We'll soon see what damage they did, but now it's just winter months with no reason to congregate (apart from vaccination stations of course), and people are more likely to stay indoors.

Mothers Day 14th March....

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, oneeye said:

Mothers Day 14th March....

A little while away fortunately.... and by then quite a bit of vaccine will have come into play ..... hopefully some mothers do av em 

Edited January 3, 2021 by crazyfool1

[Guest]

1 minute ago, oneeye said:

Mothers Day 14th March....

Remember lasts years crystal clear message ‘you can see your Mum, but don’t’?

[JoeyT]

4 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said:

 

I did have a conversation with my Wife about this.

Ultimately teachers are currently the glue holding it all together so we can try to get the economy ticking.

[jannybruck]

"Teachers being childminders" is a long overdue conversation in this country, but unfortunately it exposes deep issues within class, welfare, employment, and how the economy keeps ticking - so no party will ever touch it.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Just now, steviewevie said:

 

 

[kalifire]

This makes for grim reading, especially in the context of Johnson's "probably" needing tougher restrictions "in the weeks to come", for which history will forever damn him.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Click bait from the sun ? But I will ask a question .... @toiletduckIf the virus did mutate ... I know they can adjust it fairly quickly .... do they then have to go through approval processes ? Or are they allowed to adjust it as they go ? So perhaps now are working on something to fit the new strain better ?  

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

Click bait from the sun ? But I will ask a question .... @toiletduckIf the virus did mutate ... I know they can adjust it fairly quickly .... do they then have to go through approval processes ? Or are they allowed to adjust it as they go ? So perhaps now are working on something to fit the new strain better ?  

Times Radio, he doesn't work for Sun anymore.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Times Radio, he doesn't work for Sun anymore.

Ah ok ... shit journalism probably in his veins though ... 

[oneeye]

23 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

A little while away fortunately.... and by then quite a bit of vaccine will have come into play ..... hopefully some mothers do av em 

[tigger123]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Or in less click bait/sensationalist terminology: Bell is more worried about the South African variant as currently there’s not as much known about it due to lack of data coming out of South Africa. It probably is here given our interconnected world but the suspension of travel to South Africa should help reduce this. We are not yet seeing large numbers of this in our genomic sequencing here in the uk and it’s still not clear if the vaccine would work against this variant as more research needs to be done, although it’s current viral structure raises a concern that will need to be looked into more. Even if vaccines don’t work against this, we can develop a new vaccine within 4-6 weeks. It would not take a year like the current vaccines have, as it would only require a minor tweak to the current vaccine, meaning existing safety data should be sufficient to roll this vaccine out without the requirement for further trials to be undertaken

[efcfanwirral]

 

6 minutes ago, kalifire said:

This makes for grim reading, especially in the context of Johnson's "probably" needing tougher restrictions "in the weeks to come", for which history will forever damn him.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/

Did he say that?? That's concerning - it's like they're trying to keep a handle on any normality for a few weeks before the toughest of restrictions (that he already knows about). Got to be "papers please" style stay at home orders and forced quarantine surely? Nothing else would see history "forever damn him" 

[oneeye]

32 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Remember lasts years crystal clear message ‘you can see your Mum, but don’t’?

Yep, cut & paste for this year I reckon.

[kalifire]

2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

Did he say that?? That's concerning - it's like they're trying to keep a handle on any normality for a few weeks before the toughest of restrictions (that he already knows about). Got to be "papers please" style stay at home orders and forced quarantine surely? Nothing else would see history "forever damn him" 

Yes, he said it on Marr this morning, and it's the wait I think he'll be damned for, not the restrictions themselves. It's the fact he's got 12 months of hindsight and plenty of examples of other parts of the world getting it right, and still sits on his hands until he's forced to do something. The man has no business running a country.

[Chapple12345]

I would normally support schools being open in some capacity but right now feels too much of a risk and as a colleague of mine pointed out we as schools have a duty of care for the families we teach as well as the local community which locally to me has a lot of older residents, it's just so hard limiting the impact of the children's learning whilst keeping everyone safe 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, kalifire said:

Yes, he said it on Marr this morning, and it's the wait I think he'll be damned for, not the restrictions themselves. It's the fact he's got 12 months of hindsight and plenty of examples of other parts of the world getting it right, and still sits on his hands until he's forced to do something. The man has no business running a country.

It’s so fucking painful to watch them make the same mistakes over and over again. They don’t ever learn from the past. Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

Just tried to order some metal wall art from a German company. No longer delivers to the UK. #ThanksNige

[Crazyfool01]

I’ve just been watching some of the protest anti lockdown marches .... I wish there was some kind of anti govt protest without it being anti vaccine anti lockdown anti mask etc .... hopefully something I’ll be able to join in safer times ... 

[Radiochicken]

27 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Click bait from the sun ? But I will ask a question .... @toiletduckIf the virus did mutate ... I know they can adjust it fairly quickly .... do they then have to go through approval processes ? Or are they allowed to adjust it as they go ? So perhaps now are working on something to fit the new strain better ?  

The bit I struggle with is the “in 4-6 weeks we can change the vaccine” now surely that’s just the scientific work to understand how the vaccine needs to be changed? It’s not the safety, testing, manufacture, distribution etc etc etc. 

So it’s not really a 4-6 week delay if the vaccine doesn’t protect against a variant, it’d be quite significantly longer (??)

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Just tried to order some metal wall art from a German company. No longer delivers to the UK. #ThanksNige

Is there anyway someone in another country can order it for you and send it on ... pain in the ass way of doing it .. but might be a way to go if things become desperate ?!! 

[El Matador]

1 hour ago, kalifire said:

Mandatory masks indoors? Restriction on distance you can be from home? Curfews at night?

I struggle to see how any of those would make a significant impact. School closure is the only tool left that has the potential to make any change in my opinion.

Other measures feels like doing something in order to be seen to be doing something. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Radiochicken said:

The bit I struggle with is the “in 4-6 weeks we can change the vaccine” now surely that’s just the scientific work to understand how the vaccine needs to be changed? It’s not the safety, testing, manufacture, distribution etc etc etc. 

So it’s not really a 4-6 week delay if the vaccine doesn’t protect against a variant, it’d be quite significantly longer (??)

And now would surely be the time to lockdown nationally and prevent that strain if it’s here already from spreading further and becoming dominant ?