Extreme Mud or Extreme Heat.

[Crazyfool01]

which is worst ? 

[Crazyfool01]

ok all decided ... time to close the poll ... mud is worst  100% agree 

Edited November 26, 2019 by crazyfool1

[JoBalls]

It’s actually a tough call - I’m thinking of 2016 v 2019.

2016: Too wet. All clothing damp the entire time. Couldn’t sit down unless a bench was available. Walking was hard. Missed quite a few acts just because walking in the mud takes twice as long/is a ballache. Toilets are even more disgusting than usual. Can get pissed to ease the pain.

2019: Too hot. All clothing sweaty the entire time. Could sit down. Walking was hard due to heat. Missed quite a few acts due to need for shade. Toilets fine. Can’t get pissed until after dark due to constant need for water. So dehydrated that hangovers 10x worse than usual. Hayfever completely ridiculous. 

Just give me 18°C and dry. Don’t even care if it’s sunny really as long as it’s a comfortable temperature and not wet. 

Edited November 26, 2019 by JoBalls

[Crazyfool01]

we can do without a 50/50 split ... its supposed to be definitive >>> not 48 / 52 either !!  

[kalifire]

I wasn't there in 2016 but was in 2019, and it was so hot it actually stopped me from seeing acts I would have otherwise. That wouldn't have happened if it was wet.

[a6l6e6x]

Heat as you can sit down and wear comfier shoes. I can deal with the heat by just pounding water all day in between booze and using an umbrella for shade

[Ayrshire Chris]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

we can do without a 50/50 split ... its supposed to be definitive >>> not 48 / 52 either !!  

Decided heat is worst just to make it an exciting 50 50 Split 

of course it’s disgusting gloopy wellie swallowing energy sapping swampy mud.  Now if folk read that they might just put their tickets back into the resale for others to hoover them up! ?

[Gilgamesh69]

Extreme mud can at least be funny, albeit irritating. Especially if you just embrace it and keep partying and not worry about getting messy or ruining clothes.

 

Whereas extreme mud can be irritating and dangerous. Seen people passing out and getting heat rash at festivals before

[Avalon_Fields]

Mud for sure, assuming we mean ‘extreme’ heat to be the hottest we can get in the UK which in my opinion is far from truly extreme.

[Crazyfool01]

fancy dress in mud just doesnt happen .... I have to wait for dry spells ... although it can be a bit warm at times wearing the full suit in the day ... hence a change of gear after the efest meet last time ... water plays havoc with the lighting circuits too  .... 

[BambooShanks]

I'd rather the extreme heat of '19 or '10 over extreme mud anytime. 

The heat may be energy sapping and you've got to be a bit more  careful with how much you drink during the day but you can lie/sit down anywhere, you can wear what you want on your feet, you can walk around without a problem, the sunsets are glorious, the nights are more comfortable and being able to have a mid afternoon recovery nap on the pyramid is a wonderful thing.

 

[jyoung]

In terms of 16 vs 19 it comes down to a case of couldn't sit down in 16 and couldn't stand up in 19.

Had a blast at both. Would rather next year was a repeat of 19 than 16 though.

Getting in, around and out of the festival was pretty tough in 16.

[eastynh]

Calling @FuzzyDunlop

I agree with Fuzzy.

[FuzzyDunlop]

7 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Calling @FuzzyDunlop

I agree with Fuzzy.

Yes Easty... Glad someone agrees.

[incident]

For everyone using 2016 as the reference point - it was bad, but that's not the extreme.. 2007 was worse, and while I wasn't there there's people who'll swear blind that one of 97/98 (can't remember which) or one in the mid 80s were worse still.

Meanwhile 2019 was, factually, as hot as it's ever got so can be considered the extreme for now.

[Mimo]

Mud you can mitigate, plus once you’ve done a couple of muddy years you know what to expect and can deal with it fine. It’s hard work sure, but most importantly it doesn’t stop you watching any of the acts  

Heat there is nothing to do but wait it out. We spent 4 hours of the Saturday afternoon this year in a sweaty heap in the Circus tent, it was grim. Couldn’t stay in the sun a second longer. Missed all sorts. 

[Hugh Jass]

Extreme heat makes me feel ill. So it’s worse.

[Tommy Dickfingers]

Spent more time in 2019 doing absolutely fuck all, not drinking or doing any drugs, not even speaking at some points than any other year I’ve been. I was just praying that the sun would calm down a bit. Was absolute hell on Saturday. Felt like fucking off home. I can’t believe anyone enjoyed that heat. How?

[Ayrshire Chris]

1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:

ok all decided ... time to close the poll ... mud is worst  100% agree 

Excellent, close the poll when the result is what you like!  I wish you could be in charge of the forthcoming general election! 

I remember in 2016, late at night walking up to the railway track at the back of the other stage. Wellie stuck in the mud and I went face first down into the swamp. Did my fellow festival goers help? No, they all pissed themselves laughing and started chanting EFellova EFellova!  So I hate the mud! 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Excellent, close the poll when the result is what you like!  I wish you could be in charge of the forthcoming general election! 

I remember in 2016, late at night walking up to the railway track at the back of the other stage. Wellie stuck in the mud and I went face first down into the swamp. Did my fellow festival goers help? No, they all pissed themselves laughing and started chanting EFellova EFellova!  So I hate the mud! 

effellova efesters   ? presumably slightly off the railway track ? that slope up from other onto railway track ive seen many come a cropper but not seen mud on the tracks ... plenty of leaves on the line though  

[whitehorses]

6 minutes ago, Tommy Dickfingers said:

Spent more time in 2019 doing absolutely fuck all, not drinking or doing any drugs, not even speaking at some points than any other year I’ve been. I was just praying that the sun would calm down a bit. Was absolute hell on Saturday. Felt like fucking off home. I can’t believe anyone enjoyed that heat. How?

Didn’t ‘enjoy’ it. But the mud was worse. At least in 2019 we could lie down on the grass in the shade and then get around easily at night. 2016 was hell by comparison imo 

Edited November 26, 2019 by whitehorses
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[Ayrshire Chris]

48 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

effellova efesters   ? presumably slightly off the railway track ? that slope up from other onto railway track ive seen many come a cropper but not seen mud on the tracks ... plenty of leaves on the line though  

It won’t have been e festers!  Yes , the slope up to the railway line from the other . It was treacherous, dark and crowded. It’s a only crumb of comfort to know that others suffered the same fate. Restoring my dignity I dropped the c bomb, in my best glasgow accent, describing those who found it funny! All then had a good laugh about it and my wellie was recovered. 

The cool of the evening during a hot spell is tremendous and brings relief and reenergises everyone

  Mud just lasts all day and night

Edited November 26, 2019 by Ayrshire Chris

[dotdash79]

I loved the heat, only point it started to get too much was the Saturday Lunch time.

Would like it to be like the the Thursday all week, but this talk of mud has jinxed it

[upshitcreek]

2007 was bad!! they had to close the monorail that year I seem to remember, an electrical fault in the left phalange due to the water intake if memory serves me right. Can't remember it ever being closed from heat, and the air Con in the cabins is a great respite 

[BambooShanks]

6 minutes ago, Tommy Dickfingers said:

Spent more time in 2019 doing absolutely fuck all, not drinking or doing any drugs, not even speaking at some points than any other year I’ve been. I was just praying that the sun would calm down a bit. Was absolute hell on Saturday. Felt like fucking off home. I can’t believe anyone enjoyed that heat. How?

The heat between midday and 4 on the Saturday was piss take hot but it eased off (and you could lie down if you needed).

In extreme mud years, you don't get that respite. Its exhausting to get around at all times and takes twice as long and trying to find somewhere to sit in the mud is as likely as finding a shaded area in the heat.

Each extreme is just as challenging in it's own way but on balance, the heat is more manageable for me than extreme mud