2019 Headliners

[Chawk]

Yeah, he played The Big Chill the same year as Coachella. Was a pretty great show, included ballet dancers and a rant about people acting like he's Hitler.

 

Sounds ridiculous now, Kanue West playing Big Chill

[Superscally]

If we're all chipping in on THBC, I'm an Arctic Monkeys fan and I don't like it. Liked everything previously. 

[thewayiam]

11 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

Step back lads, Gazza's got sales numbers to settle it once and for all.

Normally I wouldn't bother with wiki but I knew it did shit. The tour did well here but that's reflective on who they are and not the album. 400k Worldwide is ridiculous

People on here can like it and that's fine, but if you are saying there isn't a larger demographic that didn't like it than did by quite some you are arguing against yourself. There were lots if reports from the tour as well that the new songs were a welcome drinks/facilities gap if you like.

[Chrundle The Great]

11 hours ago, thewayiam said:

I went out and did a survey!....joking aside though, the numbers don't lie! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Monkeys_discography#Studio_albums. Humbug and Suck It & See, there was a dip period if you like in there for them both got over double the UK sales and both registered comfortably over 100k sales in the USA. This one didn't even go Platinum Certification through anything any generated 400k Worldwide, it's only 45k more than Humbug in the UK alone. To put it into comparison, Noel Gallagher's Chasing Yesterday wasn't far off sales in the UK but went Platinum, his most current that was forgotten only got 70k less and went gold.

But there is some people on here that will label you that for everything you don't like. If you like anything on 6Music you're okay, anything else and you're a dick lol.

 

You can use statistics to prove any old bollocks though, chief.

Check out the sales figures for Nickelback's 5th (who f**king knew?) album.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Right_Reasons

By your logic it must be better than Arctic Monkeys entire back catalogue combined.  Give it a rest will you?

Edited January 6, 2019 by Chrundle The Great
Link didn't post properly.

[stuartbert two hats]

11 hours ago, thewayiam said:

I went out and did a survey!....joking aside though, the numbers don't lie! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Monkeys_discography#Studio_albums. Humbug and Suck It & See, there was a dip period if you like in there for them both got over double the UK sales and both registered comfortably over 100k sales in the USA. This one didn't even go Platinum Certification through anything any generated 400k Worldwide, it's only 45k more than Humbug in the UK alone. To put it into comparison, Noel Gallagher's Chasing Yesterday wasn't far off sales in the UK but went Platinum, his most current that was forgotten only got 70k less and went gold.

But there is some people on here that will label you that for everything you don't like. If you like anything on 6Music you're okay, anything else and you're a dick lol.

Invoking Noel's solo stuff is the perfect argument against what you're saying. His last record is clearly artistically superior to the rest of his dreary solo output.

[thewayiam]

1 hour ago, Chrundle The Great said:

You can use statistics to prove any old bollocks though, chief.

Check out the sales figures for Nickelback's 5th (who f**king knew?) album.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Right_Reasons

By your logic it must be better than Arctic Monkeys entire back catalogue combined.  Give it a rest will you?

Not really, obviously they have better USA stats which you would expect....the size of the USA to here, I'd be surprised if you find many acts at all from America that had better stats here.

Do you know how big Nickelback were back then though?, early 2000s they were huge, Photograph was massive and you couldn't miss them on Kerrang tv and it wasn't just Kerrang. Look at their most recent and the one before where they are totally forgotten. In fairness too, I'd rather listen to All the right Reasons, The Long Road and Silver Side Up.

33 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Invoking Noel's solo stuff is the perfect argument against what you're saying. His last record is clearly artistically superior to the rest of his dreary solo output.

No it isn't, he was forgot about soon after it. Go look at who's headlining the medium/smaller sized festivals along with Rudimental and MSP etc the last few years.

Edited January 6, 2019 by thewayiam

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, thewayiam said:

No it isn't, he was forgot about soon after it. Go look at who's headlining the medium/smaller sized festivals along with Rudimental and MSP etc the last few years.

That's got nothing to do with the artistic merits of his albums.

[Mouseboy11]

2 hours ago, Chawk said:

Yeah, he played The Big Chill the same year as Coachella. Was a pretty great show, included ballet dancers and a rant about people acting like he's Hitler.

 

Sounds ridiculous now, Kanue West playing Big Chill

Uh oh, you'll set Gazza off into 'Kanye bankrupted Big Chill' mode next. Now all we need is for someone to mention Foals.

[mufcok]

If that AM thing doing the rounds about them pulling Bonaroo is true, that wouldn't impact any potential Glastonbury slot anyway would it? They're 2 weeks apart..

[thewayiam]

24 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

That's got nothing to do with the artistic merits of his albums.

Really?, you can tell yourself that, then you can add the Oasis material into his sets and see what where he is know playing. While you might have that view....that needs to be a wider view and generally thought of, if not, what I'm say saying is exactly what's happening. The only people that ever mention Noel in any merit at the minute and for a while tbh is the NME.

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Really?, you can tell yourself that, then you can add the Oasis material into his sets and see what where he is know playing. While you might have that view....that needs to be a wider view and generally thought of, if not, what I'm say saying is exactly what's happening. The only people that ever mention Noel in any merit at the minute and for a while tbh is the NME.

[zeppelin]

3 hours ago, Chawk said:

Yeah, he played The Big Chill the same year as Coachella. Was a pretty great show, included ballet dancers and a rant about people acting like he's Hitler.

 

Sounds ridiculous now, Kanue West playing Big Chill

Ah man that was one of the worst sets I've ever witnessed! Only hung around because 2manydjs were coming on after. It was quite entertaining at times, so many people in the back of the crowd where we were just laughing. 

[Hugh Jass]

FWIW Noel's last album is far superior to any of his solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

FWIW Noel's last album is far superior to any of his solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

Tom York could shit into a light bulb and it would be far superior to any of Noel's solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

[Hugh Jass]

13 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

Tom York could shit into a light bulb and it would be far superior to any of Noel's solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

I’m not sure what Thom Yorke has to do with a discussion about NG’s albums though.

[mufcok]

42 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

FWIW Noel's last album is far superior to any of his solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

Certainly correct on his solo stuff, not sure re Oasis.

People are just ignorant with Noel, latest album just written off because it's Noel Gallagher without actually listening to it. As a big fan it was the solo album I've wanted since Oasis split, hopefully he'll go on from here to make another like that

[clarkete]

1 hour ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

Tom York could shit into a light bulb and it would be far superior to any of Noel's solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

Well you've certainly nailed your colours to the mast with that emphatic comparison. 

I've heard quite a bit of NG on the radio this year, he seems to be enjoying what he's doing and his audience too. He certainly got a very positive reception on the Downs in Bristol a couple of months ago and I could hear that from the other stage ?

Edited January 6, 2019 by clarkete

[jparx]

1 hour ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

Tom York could shit into a light bulb and it would be far superior to any of Noel's solo efforts and any Oasis album post The Masterplan.

I think this went over everyone's head.

[thewayiam]

3 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

I'll admit is wasn't written in the best form. The main point is though if his material was enjoyed by enough people, he would sell more and would not be playing venues he does that aren't selling out. I personally thought his 1st solo album was decent and now Liam to be fair probably does everything people wanted from Noel including being the original voice.

@mufcok saye people are just ignorant because it's Noel, they weren't ignorant on his 1st solo album when he was selling out arenas in no time at all and getting subheadline slots and album sales over double in the UK alone of THBC completely. 

[mufcok]

1 minute ago, thewayiam said:

I'll admit is wasn't written in the best form. The main point is though if his material was enjoyed by enough people, he would sell more and would not be playing venues he does that aren't selling out. I personally thought his 1st solo album was decent and now Liam to be fair probably does everything people wanted from Noel including being the original voice.

@mufcok saye people are just ignorant because it's Noel, they weren't ignorant on his 1st solo album when he was selling out arenas in no time at all and getting subheadline slots and album sales over double in the UK alone of THBC completely. 

He still sells out arenas.. see last UK tour and the gigs he's announced for this coming summer are far from small. Festivals granted he seems to have been playing the smaller gigs; Kendal Calling springs to mind. 

The ignorant comment was not meant in relation to gigs, more people writing his music off without actually listening to it. It becomes very obvious very quickly when people are talking about his latest record, as to who has actually listened to it/given it a chance and who hasn't.

[Tommy Dickfingers]

Nobody listens to the Oasis albums or solo albums they slag off. Just get lazy replies of they’re just ripping off Beatles/Slade/whoever else. 

Noel’s last solo record was really good. Bit weird in parts (for him) so alienated part of his core fan base, was by Noel so alienated everyone else who wasn’t already a fan.

I certainly listened to a lot of shite that year that people had told me was good, the kinds of people who’d never listen to Oasis before slagging their records off.

[thewayiam]

20 minutes ago, mufcok said:

He still sells out arenas.. see last UK tour and the gigs he's announced for this coming summer are far from small. Festivals granted he seems to have been playing the smaller gigs; Kendal Calling springs to mind. 

The ignorant comment was not meant in relation to gigs, more people writing his music off without actually listening to it. It becomes very obvious very quickly when people are talking about his latest record, as to who has actually listened to it/given it a chance and who hasn't.

His last gigs were Bingley Live, Nocturne in London which didn't sell out, I was tempted to get a ticket about two days before it, and Tramlines etc. I don't believe his tour arena tour sold all that well tbh.

It probably does, but if people aren't buying into it for whatever reason he'll go nowhere with it. 

[mufcok]

To be fair I'm judging the Arena sales on the Manchester one I went to so probably not a fair reflection, that's always gonna sell well

Where we upto with him and Glastonbury, subbing or Friday opener?

[thewayiam]

43 minutes ago, mufcok said:

To be fair I'm judging the Arena sales on the Manchester one I went to so probably not a fair reflection, that's always gonna sell well

Where we upto with him and Glastonbury, subbing or Friday opener?

Haha tbf I nearly replied saying well MEN would sell out, Richard Ashcroft sold out that instantly lol.

I think we're still the same place, it's either HC or him for opener I'd guess or him subbing off of his name although I think he could play 3rd down. I guess it depends how heavy the struggling for booking acts for the Pyramid claim is.

[Johnsoprano]

Had it on good authority from a band member that Noel is penciled in for next year but no plans for this.