Oasis

[Suprefan]

15 minutes ago, Superscally said:

Did many people activate it?

Same scenario. It goes into effect when its near sell out. Here it is as it currently stands. And its labeled as to why the cost

[Suprefan]

6 minutes ago, Nestacres said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harry-styles-bruce-sprinsteen-ticketmaster-dynamic-pricing-b2200126.html

 

 

And nobody said one damn word 2 years ago now did they. Its always in everyones faces but again, until it happens to them it wont matter much. 
 

 

[Superscally]

2 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

And nobody said one damn word 2 years ago now did they. Its always in everyones faces but again, until it happens to them it wont matter much. 
 

 

Ah they did for sure dude and Bruce has found it harder to shift tickets since.

[MilkyJoe]

9 minutes ago, Narnia said:

That would be a lot fairer to buyers but the dynamic pricing works because of the way it is implemented. Fans have bought the higher price tickets in the spur of the moment because they didn't have time to think and were fed up of waiting for hours. It is very calculated in how the system manipulates people into buying stuff. 

Indeed. It would be interesting to know how many people on this discussion turned down the ‘dynamically priced’ tickets and went without. I think I only read a couple of posts saying they had…

[Suprefan]

3 minutes ago, Superscally said:

Ah they did for sure dude and Bruce has found it harder to shift tickets since.

They clearly didnt scream enough to make changes with the government now did they. It kept happening regardless. Because it wasnt of any near "importance" to the general public they dont give a toss.  Mess with a uk artist thats deeply embedded into the culture and everyone wants changes.

Edited September 1, 2024 by Suprefan

[pink_triangle]

40 minutes ago, Narnia said:

Definately and so many acts will engage with fans when they have something to sell but then go quiet inbetween. But if they are going to build these connections with fans then it would be more ethical to treat them better if they indeed care about this.

I suspect they cared at the start and then it became a business. I’m not going to be critical as I suspect it’s the same for many bands. At the end of the day not many bands are  going to admit they are reforming as a business decision and I suspect many of the idealistic fans would prefer them not to be honest.

[MEGABOWL]

45 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

And nobody said one damn word 2 years ago now did they. Its always in everyones faces but again, until it happens to them it wont matter much. 
 

 

There was loads of complaining about that. Endless BBC and Newspaper articles, a Yougov poll. It got debated in the Commons in November 2023.

[tigger123]

1 hour ago, Suprefan said:

They clearly didnt scream enough to make changes with the government now did they. It kept happening regardless. Because it wasnt of any near "importance" to the general public they dont give a toss.  Mess with a uk artist thats deeply embedded into the culture and everyone wants changes.

This is such a weak argument. Hundreds of thousands of people protest each week demanding our government to support a full ceasefire in Gaza and guess what, that hasn't happened yet. Just because you scream about it doesn't mean the government will take any action.

[Hugh Jass II]

Sat refreshing See and GnT for about seven hours yesterday and got absolutely nowhere. Got to the front of the TM queue only to be greated with £350 “in demand” standing tickets that I flatly refused to pay.

 

So I am unashamedly on the hunt for any spares that may come up.

 

I also have a spare for Macca at the O2 in December that I would be prepared to trade for any night at Wembley if anyone is interested.

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, Suprefan said:

They clearly didnt scream enough to make changes with the government now did they. It kept happening regardless. Because it wasnt of any near "importance" to the general public they dont give a toss.  Mess with a uk artist thats deeply embedded into the culture and everyone wants changes.

The UK artist has taken the piss too. Both guilty here. I want changes. We've however wanted changes for years, this has just widened the net.

[Hugh Jass II]

20 minutes ago, Superscally said:

The UK artist has taken the piss too. Both guilty here. I want changes. We've however wanted changes for years, this has just widened the net.

Absolutely, Oasis could have said no to dynamic pricing but chose not to.

 

Makes their bumpf about resellers look like the empty words they were.

[Jay Pee]

Stewart Lee nailed it as he so often does...

 

The cocaine dealers of Britain are already putting in advance orders so thousands of middle-aged men can stand in stadiums next summer bellowing trivial conversations about f**k all at each other all through the gigs they’ve paid hundreds of pounds to touts to attend

[andyrhodes24]

Good write up here from the BBC on yesterday’s shambles, includes comment from punters, a ticketing body and a current Labour minister.

 

The fella from the Society of Ticket Agents and Retailers does not come across well: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2kj3742jxwo

[Narnia]

12 minutes ago, Jay Pee said:

Stewart Lee nailed it as he so often does...

 

The cocaine dealers of Britain are already putting in advance orders so thousands of middle-aged men can stand in stadiums next summer bellowing trivial conversations about f**k all at each other all through the gigs they’ve paid hundreds of pounds to touts to attend

 

It's no wonder they said the gig wouldn't be televised lol   

[lsccksdg]

Does anyone know what time TM will go live with resale tickets tomorrow? 
 

Also, there are thousands of tickets on tout sites, so with TM saying these will be cancelled, do we think thousands of tickets will appear on TM resale tomorrow? 
 

Forgive me if I misinterpreted any info! 

[incident]

5 minutes ago, lsccksdg said:

Also, there are thousands of tickets on tout sites, so with TM saying these will be cancelled, do we think thousands of tickets will appear on TM resale tomorrow?

 

No, we think that TM are full of sh*t.

 

There might be a handful cancelled, just so they can say they're doing something. But most won't be, and there's no guarantee they do anything at all.

[efcfanwirral]

10 minutes ago, lsccksdg said:

Does anyone know what time TM will go live with resale tickets tomorrow? 
 

Also, there are thousands of tickets on tout sites, so with TM saying these will be cancelled, do we think thousands of tickets will appear on TM resale tomorrow? 
 

Forgive me if I misinterpreted any info! 

 

3 minutes ago, incident said:

 

No, we think that TM are full of sh*t.

 

There might be a handful cancelled, just so they can say they're doing something. But most won't be, and there's no guarantee they do anything at all.

I reckon if the band's management decide to cancel them, they'll end up in a pot to be resold at a later date, perhaps via ballot or mailing list. 

Edited September 1, 2024 by efcfanwirral

[danmarks]

4 hours ago, MilkyJoe said:

Indeed. It would be interesting to know how many people on this discussion turned down the ‘dynamically priced’ tickets and went without. I think I only read a couple of posts saying they had…

My son did x4 tickets.  7hours. Got through and 400quid each then so he bailed.

[09matthewsw]

1 hour ago, incident said:

 

No, we think that TM are full of sh*t.

 

There might be a handful cancelled, just so they can say they're doing something. But most won't be, and there's no guarantee they do anything at all.

Ticket agents repeat the same rubbish about how they will cancel tickets etc etc but are always light on detail on how this will be done. StubHub and Viagogo don't have to share info with TM etc and would be jeopardising their own business model if they did. People say shut the likes of Viagogo down but the reality is that touts will always find a way and the responsibility lies with the ticket agent to resolve this. Few ideas: 

1. My favourite - Make tickets entirely non-transferable unless through an official reselling platform and give people the option to sell to their friends and family at face value, so you either sell your tickets the proper way or attend the event with the people you have tickets for. Not perfect but much better. 

2. Registration - Like Glastonbury. Think this would be difficult to implement but we know it works well. Won't happen though because there's no desire from artists to do it. 

3. Why did it have to be 4 per person per event? Why not just 4 per person full stop. Do we really need to give people the option to attend more than once when an event is in such high demand? 

4. Box office collection with ID / name on ticket, this was trialed a few times pre-COVID but ticket agencies have made big savings going paperless and this is difficult to implement now and also makes it tricky for people who cant attend for genuine reasons.

 

Ultimately, nothing will change because no one is driving it, but it really wouldn't be that hard...

[Neil]

On 8/31/2024 at 1:46 PM, Chef said:

Has anyone known anything like this before? Almost 5 hours in to a ticket sale and you still can't get past a holding page. 

the year that glastonbury tickets took 24 hours to sell out - people were still trying when it was time to leave for work on the monday.

[Superscally]

3 hours ago, Hugh Jass II said:

Absolutely, Oasis could have said no to dynamic pricing but chose not to.

 

Makes their bumpf about resellers look like the empty words they were.

I don't doubt that for a second...shady.

[clarkete]

46 minutes ago, 09matthewsw said:

Ticket agents repeat the same rubbish about how they will cancel tickets etc etc but are always light on detail on how this will be done. StubHub and Viagogo don't have to share info with TM etc and would be jeopardising their own business model if they did. People say shut the likes of Viagogo down but the reality is that touts will always find a way and the responsibility lies with the ticket agent to resolve this. Few ideas: 

1. My favourite - Make tickets entirely non-transferable unless through an official reselling platform and give people the option to sell to their friends and family at face value, so you either sell your tickets the proper way or attend the event with the people you have tickets for. Not perfect but much better. 

2. Registration - Like Glastonbury. Think this would be difficult to implement but we know it works well. Won't happen though because there's no desire from artists to do it. 

3. Why did it have to be 4 per person per event? Why not just 4 per person full stop. Do we really need to give people the option to attend more than once when an event is in such high demand? 

4. Box office collection with ID / name on ticket, this was trialed a few times pre-COVID but ticket agencies have made big savings going paperless and this is difficult to implement now and also makes it tricky for people who cant attend for genuine reasons.

 

Ultimately, nothing will change because no one is driving it, but it really wouldn't be that hard...

 

I like the sound of several options, but couldn't I just pretend someone is my friend and pass them a pair of tickets via a freshly created temp login for x times the price? 

[clarkete]

38 minutes ago, Neil said:

the year that glastonbury tickets took 24 hours to sell out - people were still trying when it was time to leave for work on the monday.

 

Yes, my recollection was spending about 16 hours switching between flaky online options whilst continuously dialing the number without so much as a sniff.  Eventually a pal heard my predicament and bought ours - they had succeeded within the first hour and did so with similar ease. 

 

Their supplier was Orange, who were the mobile partner at the time and some folks had an old wives' tale that relationship conveyed some lucky charm. 

[incident]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

the year that glastonbury tickets took 24 hours to sell out - people were still trying when it was time to leave for work on the monday.

 

Almost - the 24 hour sale was Glastonbury 2004, and tickets went on sale at 8pm on a Thursday Evening, for reasons that I don't think were ever given. So while it went into the next working day (and I'm sure led to a serious drop in productivity), it was a Friday.

 

The switch to a Sunday Morning sale came the following year, with the legend being that calls to See had crashed the Nottingham telephone switchboard (back when See had telephones, with a large call centre based in Nottingham city centre) causing BT to insist that the next sale was moved well outside of business hours. No idea whether that was ever actually true, but I hope it was. 2005 did sell out much quicker, so didn't trickle into the Monday.

[MrZigster]

Government probe now apparently. Didn't the last lot do that? Probably get lobbied out of doing anything favourable for fans.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20r26p7d0ro

 

After failing to get a presale code for the Friday I decided that evening that £150 was just too much for a band I've seen three times (a dozen if you count NGHFB/Liam sets), only to get soaked in piss within the first three minutes. Plus Wembley's a PITA to get back from whichever way you choose to get there. Plus what Stewart Lee said about coked up twats.

 

Given the shambles I'm thinking it was a good call. Practically the whole day trying for possibly no result? f**k that for a game of soldiers.