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2 hours ago, emmanuel said:

Sure.

But personally I prefer to use an international metric for how good they are. I find it suspicious when is someone is presumably so good (Fender), but yet no one in continental Europe or USA seem to bother. I mean half of the bands playing at Glastonbury could probably also play the Forest National in Brussels or Roseland Theater in Portland.

I'm not judging if they pick him, I just find it weird. All the music I've ever listened was "international", so it is just a phenomena I don't really understand.

 

I totally get where you are coming from, but surely to headline a UK festival all that matters is how popular they are in the UK.

 

Whether Fender is popular or not any where else in the world is irelevant to how big a slot he is in the UK.

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1 hour ago, Dales said:

 

I totally get where you are coming from, but surely to headline a UK festival all that matters is how popular they are in the UK.

 

Whether Fender is popular or not any where else in the world is irelevant to how big a slot he is in the UK.


Exactly, which is one of the reasons SZA didn’t work, I think.

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1 hour ago, Rose-Colored Boy said:

Just trying to think of people nobody in the UK gives a sh*t about but are big internationally. Maybe Garth Brooks. 

We used to have this discussion a lot around Bad Bunny - enormous in the US market and playing huge concerts out there but not been to the UK in years. Could just be the language barrier, given I can't recall if there's been many Spanish language pop songs in the UK in the last decade or so.

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16 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

The studio version doesn't do this interpretation justice.

 

I know Snow Patrol do get a lot of flack, but I remember reading 1001 Songs You Must Hear Before You Die, with Run in there, and I was like "Yep. That absolutely tracks."

 

Probably up there for the best of the post-Britpop ballads that populated the noughties charts, long before Leona Lewis made it an The X Factor-era hit to boot.

 

But Boe absolutely gives it the beans there. The occasion probably helps too.


Oh Run is a classic, no doubt about that. I’m not a huge fan (that, Chocolate, Crack the Shutters pretty much) but Run is in the upper echelons, an indisputable tune. I wouldn’t expect anything else from Boe but that’s magnificent.

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12 hours ago, Suprefan said:

they have to at one point. This aint your mum's glasto anymore. Its not Sza's fault they did her dirty. And blame Madonna more than anyone. They did the best they could. Artists do say no, this fest isnt invincible and last year really showed that. Theres no deep pockets to pull a miracle.

 

It's so weird how you travel all the way here for Glastonbury but your posts about it are negative, like it did you dirty and you're just waiting for it to f**k up or fail at things. 

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To bring back that international lens, Charli right now is a lot bigger than either Sam fender or even the 1975 are. 
 

Keeping both that in mind and Emily’s past comments on gender and pipeline, it’s going to look very strange when she’s not headlining the pyramid but those two are. And of course she should refuse other headliner the offer itself would feel borderline sexist when in this moment she’s so much biggger than both (at least outside of England, I guess).

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2 hours ago, fullfathom5 said:


Exactly, which is one of the reasons SZA didn’t work, I think.


 

sza had sold out her arena shows in the uk  and had the bst date. So its not like she wasnt popular to begin with. Sza didnt work because nobody wanted an artist that connected more with people half their age than themselves. And a r&b act on Sunday isnt the best thing either. It also shows you what the core audience gives a sh*t about. They truly dont want the fest to progress farther than like 2010.  If she was british I bet you nobody would say a word. Or if it was Little Simz. 
 

And if you want to gatekeep the festival headliners then be my guest. Maybe where I live should stop lending you talent and we'll see how far these top names go in quality. No Billie, Kendrick, Olivia, Guns N Roses or  Foo Fighters just from the last few. 

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7 minutes ago, assorted said:

To bring back that international lens, Charli right now is a lot bigger than either Sam fender or even the 1975 are. 
 

Keeping both that in mind and Emily’s past comments on gender and pipeline, it’s going to look very strange when she’s not headlining the pyramid but those two are. And of course she should refuse other headliner the offer itself would feel borderline sexist when in this moment she’s so much biggger than both (at least outside of England, I guess).


Glastonbury doesn’t really book headliners based on international success though. That wouldn’t make sense when the majority of attendees are from the U.K. and the festival is in the U.K.

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19 minutes ago, assorted said:

To bring back that international lens, Charli right now is a lot bigger than either Sam fender or even the 1975 are. 
 

Keeping both that in mind and Emily’s past comments on gender and pipeline, it’s going to look very strange when she’s not headlining the pyramid but those two are. And of course she should refuse other headliner the offer itself would feel borderline sexist when in this moment she’s so much biggger than both (at least outside of England, I guess).

Regardless of any of this she’s so much more fun than Fender or The 1975

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32 minutes ago, Suprefan said:


 

sza had sold out her arena shows in the uk  and had the bst date. So its not like she wasnt popular to begin with. Sza didnt work because nobody wanted an artist that connected more with people half their age than themselves. And a r&b act on Sunday isnt the best thing either. It also shows you what the core audience gives a sh*t about. They truly dont want the fest to progress farther than like 2010.  If she was british I bet you nobody would say a word. Or if it was Little Simz. 
 

And if you want to gatekeep the festival headliners then be my guest. Maybe where I live should stop lending you talent and we'll see how far these top names go in quality. No Billie, Kendrick, Olivia, Guns N Roses or  Foo Fighters just from the last few. 


It was a gamble of a booking and it didn’t work out. Thats it. Your constant need to try and start arguments based on things you’ve imagined is getting really boring, and a touch unpleasant.

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