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6 minutes ago, jonnytee1 said:

 

I'd watch Muse if it was an anniversary performance of any of the first 4 albums with a few greatest hits but their output has progressively got worse up until the last album which almost seemed to be a parody of their whole career.

 

 

Their last few albums have indeed not been of the same quality of the early stuff but name me a band that isn't true of. Arctic Monkeys, Oasis, Kings of Leon, Killers....the list goes on and on and on. It's difficult to keep that same quality up.

 

Still some great tracks too on the last few Muse albums hidden among some less than stellar ones. 

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6 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

 

I actually thought the last two albums were a big step up on the three before. Especially the last one.

 

The others still have their highlights too. I'd always happily hear the likes of Mercy, Madness and Undisclosed Desires. 

 

I am a huge Muse fan and have seen them over 50 times -  i just miss the energy of the first three albums especially. To me  Simulation Theory was a mess other than a couple of tracks and the new album minus Wont Stand Down, Kill or be Killed and the Amazing Verona was also a mess and awful lyrically (throw the baby out with the bath water LOL). All tracks sounded like a mash of everything that had come before but nowhere near as good.   

 

The one thing you can say is that live they still knock it out the park.

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1 minute ago, JonSnow said:

 

O Rod plays with a live band

 

But its music marketed at teenagers predominantly. I'm nearly 40 and also not a great fan of pop music. 

She can definitely sing though and Driving licence is a good song.

 

I just don't get excited by these kinds of acts. I wasn't at Glasto this year but Dua Lipa looked as dull as dishwater on BBC. It's way too formulaic and over rehearsed.

 

She'd be no higher than Pyramid sub for me if I was in charge. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Benjsh said:

 

Their last few albums have indeed not been of the same quality of the early stuff but name me a band that isn't true of. Arctic Monkeys, Oasis, Kings of Leon, Killers....the list goes on and on and on. It's difficult to keep that same quality up.

 

Still some great tracks too on the last few Muse albums hidden among some less than stellar ones. 

 

So we agree  -  4 albums is the most a band should make? LOL although we wouldn't have "in rainbows" or any of the Beatles best albums if that was the case  

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5 minutes ago, Benjsh said:

 

But its music marketed at teenagers predominantly. I'm nearly 40 and also not a great fan of pop music. 

She can definitely sing though and Driving licence is a good song.

 

I just don't get excited by these kinds of acts. I wasn't at Glasto this year but Dua Lipa looked as dull as dishwater on BBC. It's way too formulaic and over rehearsed.

 

She'd be no higher than Pyramid sub for me if I was in charge. 

 

 

 

I'm 44 and find my music has massively diversified as I've got older. I'm really into this pop revolution in the same way I've recently enjoyed Mastodon. I think O'rod has some great tunes and most of the acts I've seen live put on a great show. I thought Dua Lipa was great headlining last year and Janelle Monae was even better (although not a headline act).

 

If anything, after years and years of festivals booking the same bands again and again its a refreshing change and a chance to see something new. 

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10 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

As are all the above rock/indie bands being mentioned. 

 

When Muse and Arctic monkeys start doing choreography then get back to me.

 

Live Rock music isn't really like Pop music. There's way more opportunities for jamming and being a bit different with songs. 

 

Dua Lipa's performance sounded like her songs on the radio. It was bland and dull but again that's why we all have different opinions isn't it? 

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11 minutes ago, jonnytee1 said:

 

I'm 44 and find my music has massively diversified as I've got older. I'm really into this pop revolution in the same way I've recently enjoyed Mastodon. I think O'rod has some great tunes and most of the acts I've seen live put on a great show. I thought Dua Lipa was great headlining last year and Janelle Monae was even better (although not a headline act).

 

If anything, after years and years of festivals booking the same bands again and again its a refreshing change and a chance to see something new. 

 

I'm fairly sure her UK tour wasn't full of 44 year olds was it? Most of them who were with there with younger children I'd imagine. That was my point. 

 

I don't really have anything against her and my 10 year old son and wife are actually going to the rescheduled Manchester gig on the Monday as it happens. I just don't think I could sit through a 2 hour gig of hers so I'm not going. Hahaha. 

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4 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

I'm 40 and I'll have all the pop music please. All of it. Every slot.

Out of reactions.

 

It’s far more fun than middle aged blokes going through the motions, playing dull formulaic rock music which should have died out about 30 years ago 

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1 minute ago, Benjsh said:

 

I'm fairly sure her UK tour wasn't full of 44 year olds was it? Most of them who were with there with younger children I'd imagine. That was my point. 

 

I don't really have anything against her and my 10 year old son and wife are actually going to the rescheduled Manchester gig on the Monday as it happens. I just don't think I could sit through a 2 hour gig of hers so I'm not going. Hahaha. 

 

I'm sure you are correct in that O'rods tour was not full of 44 year old people...in the same way that when Metallica headlined, i am sure Metallicas previous concerts weren't packed out at the front full of people with daisy chains in their hair, waving peace flags who attend private schools but hey,

 

Variety is the spice of life and that's what makes Glasto, Glasto

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4 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Out of reactions.

 

It’s far more fun than middle aged blokes going through the motions, playing dull formulaic rock music which should have died out about 30 years ago 

 

A bit of everything is the answer, which  -  is what you're gonna get at most major festivals these days. The good thing is that with that mix, there's no real need to moan about either genre as you can go and see what you enjoy and don't watch what you don't enjoy, 

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25 minutes ago, Benjsh said:

 

But its music marketed at teenagers predominantly. I'm nearly 40 and also not a great fan of pop music. 

She can definitely sing though and Driving licence is a good song.

 

I just don't get excited by these kinds of acts. I wasn't at Glasto this year but Dua Lipa looked as dull as dishwater on BBC. It's way too formulaic and over rehearsed.

 

She'd be no higher than Pyramid sub for me if I was in charge. 

 

 

To be honest here, by not actually being open in general to pop music you're naturally going to be against the idea of it.

 

For me, im a case of if I like it I do and that could be anything and I dont care where it came from. It could be reality tv, a pop show on tv etc etc. End of the day a rock band that made it or a rapper etc needed their music to be heard, liked and taken on my someone to put them where they are. 

 

I like a lot of pop music and ive never been oh no like you can't like sh*t because it came from pop idol or something but because this came from the voice it's better blah blah. Sometimes a bit of fun cheese is a nice vibe I reckon and mixes it up.

 

21 minutes ago, thatTFBguy said:

 

It's not really how i view it either, just giving the information for those who like to weigh up lineups that way

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I'd agree there's room for anything that will draw an audience. I'm certainly not going to suggest a bona-fide headliner should sub.

 

It's just the age thing getting brought up. I think some might be surprised by the wide range of pop music fans. Might not be wide ranging at their own  gigs, but at festivals I've been part of very mixed audiences. 

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50 minutes ago, Benjsh said:

 

But its music marketed at teenagers predominantly. I'm nearly 40 and also not a great fan of pop music. 

She can definitely sing though and Driving licence is a good song.

 

I just don't get excited by these kinds of acts. I wasn't at Glasto this year but Dua Lipa looked as dull as dishwater on BBC. It's way too formulaic and over rehearsed.

 

She'd be no higher than Pyramid sub for me if I was in charge. 

 

 

She's definitely a headliner from a size perspective but I think she's got some winning over to do for some of the crowd, its not like Dua Lipa where 10+ songs are deep in the public consciousness. 

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55 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

She's definitely a headliner from a size perspective but I think she's got some winning over to do for some of the crowd, its not like Dua Lipa where 10+ songs are deep in the public consciousness. 

This is true, if I'd have been there in 22 I wouldn't be as bothered as she will be a one and done. Dua Lipa tour however I'm going to look on twickets

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We saw O-Rod in 2022 on The Other stage and she was much better than we’d expected, though whole staging and band felt very manufactured. Haven’t ever chosen to put her music on since, though enjoy it when I catch it on the radio. I’m happy if she’s headlining, but definitely feel like I might be drawn away elsewhere this time depending on who else is on. But that’s the whole joy of Glastonbury isn’t it? You can pick and choose. If we all wanted to see the headliners it would be like Elton John busy every time. 

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I love having a Pyramid headliner that suits me to watch, but I don't get too hung up on it. Swings and roundabouts

 

McCartney 2022 and AM 2023 was a dream for me, can't have it your own way every year. Enjoyed Coldplay last year (well, the first half of it). Anticipating a year away from the Pyramid headline slots this year. I've been so lucky over the years, when I look back.

 

There's also been plenty of huge acts I have no interest in - Adele, Muse, Stormzy, Kanye, Sheeran, Dua Lipa, but to name a few. Clear that they are more than deserving of those slots - just don't suit my tastes.

 

We're blessed with the size of the place, and the range of acts/genre/diversity.

 

It is very easy to get hung up on headliners. I still sometimes fall into the trap myself.

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I think having a headliner like O-Rod is where the festival should be.  Feels like the right headliner at the the right time.  It isn't going to be for everyone but that is fine.

I thought she was really good on the Other stage.  I agree that she has got more cross over songs that the general public will know than SZA and probably similar to Billie Eilish, much much fewer than Dua Lipa though. 

 

If I'm lucky enough to get a ticket then I will be there because I think it will be good fun (unless she clashes with Biffy)

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