Headliners 2023

[Xeph1995]

1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

The Prodigy are the Guns'n'Roses of dance music.

Still more fun to see live. 

[DeanoL]

21 hours ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

It's very odd how angry people are about them playing. I think Arctic Monkeys are a load of w*nk but fully accept they deserve to be booked and people like them.

I think part of it is a weird cultural thing. I've said a few times, they're kinda gross. They ooze 80s/90s toxic masculinity, both in their attitude and their music. They are very much of that culture and it's not something they can really change.

But what's also odd, is that unlike many acts to whom that applies, there's also the fact that as far as well can tell, they've never actually done anything wrong. No abuse of partners, no sleeping with underage girls, no real actual nasty scandals. There's the one song with the racism which they've distanced themselves from, but there's no reason to cancel them. And people would love to cancel them, because, as I say, they're "gross". But they can't, because they appear to actually be relatively well behaved boys (and girl now).

But I think it's really hard to actually explain that, I'm not sure I've even managed it, it's the idea of their attitude being at odds with what you expect from Glasto.

(The Stones are in a similar category, but it was a long time ago when they played *and* they were undoubtedly a bigger booking)

20 hours ago, pryce said:

not sure why the sudden obsession from some of having 3 bands you love headline the pyramid ...isnt it better if you have a night or 2 you could spend elsewhere?

The massive price increase.

It's not worthwhile at the current price to go spend most of the day hanging around the Avalon Cafe, as nice as that might be. You have that experience for a fraction of the price at other festivals.

I appreciate Skip's attitude and approach, but it's worth noting he gets in for free and said there's no chance he'd ever actually go if he had to pay. You can look at it differently then, you're not concerned about getting value for your money. For those of us paying for tickets the headliners have to matter at this point as it's how you justify half the ticket price.

[matrainertje]

9 minutes ago, Xeph1995 said:

im kinda hoping maybe The Prodigy are on the Other that night. 

Prodigy? With all the oldies being on the Pyramid this year, would they fill the Other top slots with some more nostalgia acts?

Hoping the Other headliners will balance out the lineup with some fresher names. 

[Xeph1995]

2 minutes ago, matrainertje said:

Prodigy? With all the oldies being on the Pyramid this year, would they fill the Other top slots with some more nostalgia acts?

Hoping the Other headliners will balance out the lineup with some fresher names. 

They were supposed to headline the other the what Keith killed himself and they are available this year, I think they are kinda nailed on somewhere. 

[NorthernSoul52]

23 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Maybe? She's not that high up at Latitude. Tbh I see Sparks on Pyramid.

I'd like Sparks on the Pyramid, but they'd be a sick booking for the Park slot.

Picturing them around Crowded House level, though Crowded House probably a bigger draw.

[mungo57]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

haha I agree... I don't like anyone speaking bad about my hometown apart from me. 

Bloody shithole 😂

my hometown also so I reserve the right to also call it a shithole (which is very much what it is) and also slander the football team no matter how much I love them, or the town, deep down on the inside!

Saw Elton there last summer and was bloody good.

[Skip997]

11 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I appreciate Skip's attitude and approach, but it's worth noting he gets in for free and said there's no chance he'd ever actually go if he had to pay. You can look at it differently then, you're not concerned about getting value for your money. For those of us paying for tickets the headliners have to matter at this point as it's how you justify half the ticket price.

For sure it makes a massive difference, at least for me. But I'm not sure that the headliners have to matter due to the ticket cost. There is a huge amount of quality entertainment away from the Pyramid, both The Other Stage and WH regularly host big headliners, e.g. if you're more into Hip Hop than rock then Public Enemy are bigger than The Stones. Then there's the massive variety of top T&C acts, add up the cost of seeing them individually.

The reasons I'd never pay to go aren't related to who is playing. Have explained in another post somewhere.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Skip997

[Justcalledtosay]

I'm quite happy to have at least one headliner that's not my cup of tea. I don't want to spend every evening at the Pyramid. 

AM - Will be dependant on what's on elsewhere.

GnR - I'll be elsewhere regardless.

Elton - I'm there with bells on.

[Quark]

Having three great pyramid headliners is kinda like someone cracking on to me as a married man.  I don't want to, but I'd like the opportunity to say no.

[gfa]

given our headliners look like a 2000s R&L i wonder if they might change up the other opener slot perhaps and get some kind of female fronted act. not sure who but would be good for it not to be our 12th 00s male indie band in a row

[matrainertje]

5 minutes ago, Xeph1995 said:

They were supposed to headline the other the what Keith killed himself and they are available this year, I think they are kinda nailed on somewhere. 

But isn't The Prodigy more of a smaller festivals affair nowadays? A bit like Kasabian. 

[Xeph1995]

1 minute ago, matrainertje said:

But isn't The Prodigy more of a smaller festivals affair nowadays? A bit like Kasabian. 

Nah they are deffo Other Stage size headliner act still, I'd rather someone fresher don't get me wrong but I would be very surprised to not see them booked. 

[gfa]

3 minutes ago, matrainertje said:

But isn't The Prodigy more of a smaller festivals affair nowadays? A bit like Kasabian. 

 

Just now, Xeph1995 said:

Nah they are deffo Other Stage size headliner act still, I'd rather someone fresher don't get me wrong but I would be very surprised to not see them booked. 

They were booked for it in 2020 so think they will get that slot again

Their shows are definitely smaller than kasabian's now (kasabian have definitely toured wide, prodigy less so but similar size shows) who around the 2019 were bigger to begin with

[NorthernSoul52]

8 minutes ago, Quark said:

Having three great pyramid headliners is kinda like someone cracking on to me as a married man.  I don't want to, but I'd like the opportunity to say no.

Turn of phrase of the century right there.

[Florian Saucer Attack]

9 minutes ago, gfa said:

given our headliners look like a 2000s R&L i wonder if they might change up the other opener slot perhaps and get some kind of female fronted act. not sure who but would be good for it not to be our 12th 00s male indie band in a row

Elton John did not and would not headline R&L's in the 2000's or probably ever

[balti-pie]

1 minute ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

Elton John did not and would not headline R&L's in the 2000's or probably ever

72-75 he absolutely would've done, if it existed at the time 

[anditmakesmesmile]

4 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

I can understand not knowing songs by name, to a point, but with the sheer number of wedding discos in existence, it feels a bit of a stretch to say you wouldn't recognise Sweet Child O' Mine or Just Can't Get Enough.

I’ve always said I do know Sweet Child of Mine. But none of the others.

[Jose Pose]

27 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I think part of it is a weird cultural thing. I've said a few times, they're kinda gross. They ooze 80s/90s toxic masculinity, both in their attitude and their music. They are very much of that culture and it's not something they can really change.

But what's also odd, is that unlike many acts to whom that applies, there's also the fact that as far as well can tell, they've never actually done anything wrong. No abuse of partners, no sleeping with underage girls, no real actual nasty scandals. There's the one song with the racism which they've distanced themselves from, but there's no reason to cancel them. And people would love to cancel them, because, as I say, they're "gross". But they can't, because they appear to actually be relatively well behaved boys (and girl now).

But I think it's really hard to actually explain that, I'm not sure I've even managed it, it's the idea of their attitude being at odds with what you expect from Glasto.

(The Stones are in a similar category, but it was a long time ago when they played *and* they were undoubtedly a bigger booking)

The massive price increase.

It's not worthwhile at the current price to go spend most of the day hanging around the Avalon Cafe, as nice as that might be. You have that experience for a fraction of the price at other festivals.

I appreciate Skip's attitude and approach, but it's worth noting he gets in for free and said there's no chance he'd ever actually go if he had to pay. You can look at it differently then, you're not concerned about getting value for your money. For those of us paying for tickets the headliners have to matter at this point as it's how you justify half the ticket price.

Blimey you don’t half over complicate things don’t you 😂

People don’t see GnR as “Gross” they just see them as a bit dated and having gone well past the point they would’ve been a relevant booking.

Sometimes the simple answer is the correct answer! 

[Florian Saucer Attack]

1 minute ago, balti-pie said:

72-75 he absolutely would've done, if it existed at the time 

You've got me there.

Would Mozart have played R&L if it existed in 1775?

[anditmakesmesmile]

5 hours ago, Suprefan said:

Yeah sure. Going to 2 gigs a year which is 2 more gigs than your friends doesnt really count.

…hold on, plus the Abba holograms! 

[Tranquility of Solitude]

1 hour ago, Gnomicide said:

It's my Glastonbury in a nutshell.

First 10 minutes "Oo look, a juggler. That's nice".

Last day " Oo look, another fucking juggler. YOU c**t!"

Replace “juggler” with “person in a seagull outfit” and that’s pretty much me to a tee.

[dreams_burn_down]

54 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Alright, alright, back to headliners then.

Given this is headliners for 2023 at a broad canter, any stabs in the dark for Park toppers this year?

Pure speculation but would be overjoyed with any of these:

Angel Olsen
Yo La Tengo
New Pornographers
Suede
Weyes Blood
Spoon
Spiritualized
FKA twigs

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

35 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

The Prodigy are the Guns'n'Roses of dance music.

In what way?

[NorthernSoul52]

5 minutes ago, dreams_burn_down said:

Pure speculation but would be overjoyed with any of these:

Angel Olsen
Yo La Tengo
New Pornographers
Suede
Weyes Blood
Spoon
Spiritualized
FKA twigs

That's some very good shouts.

[DeanoL]

29 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

For sure it makes a massive difference, at least for me. But I'm not sure that the headliners have to matter due to the ticket cost. There is a huge amount of quality entertainment away from the Pyramid, both The Other Stage and WH regularly host big headliners, e.g. if you're more into Hip Hop than rock then Public Enemy are bigger than The Stones. Then there's the massive variety of top T&C acts, add up the cost of seeing them individually.

The reasons I'd never pay to go aren't related to who is playing. Have explained in another post somewhere.

Yeah there's great stuff and many a festival I've seen maybe 5 bands and then a load of Cabaret and Circus acts. My default is flitting between T&C and Avalon. If tickets were £200 still I could still justify that. But at the current price, I could do a weekend comedy festival, a weekend folk festival, and then go se La Clique or Cirque de Soleil. And probably still have £50 left over.

Everyone has a number of headliners they need to be in to to make it worthwhile for them. For you it's still zero, for me it's gone up to one for the first time with the price this year. For others I can understand it being two or even three.

9 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

Blimey you don’t half over complicate things don’t you 😂

People don’t see GnR as “Gross” they just see them as a bit dated and having gone well past the point they would’ve been a relevant booking.

Sometimes the simple answer is the correct answer! 

Fair enough - It's certainly why I see it as a weird booking, so it's probably a bit of both.