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2 hours ago, JakeT said:

Would love to know where the actual quiet camping is onsite rather than the Quiet Camping which placed us behind the Walled Garden and the Rising stages - the noisiest festival campsite I've ever encountered!! 

Was it people in the campsite causing the noise or the festival itself? I think one of our relatives camped in the quiet camping not realising he was in there, and I can’t imagine him and his crew being at all quiet. Maybe they need to mark it more clearly/move it away from the stages/entrance. 
 

we asked several stewards where the family camping was and were told it was all family camping, and that a designated area did not exist. The stewards seemed to not know a whole lot haha!

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6 minutes ago, Cherrytree13 said:

Was it people in the campsite causing the noise or the festival itself? I think one of our relatives camped in the quiet camping not realising he was in there, and I can’t imagine him and his crew being at all quiet. Maybe they need to mark it more clearly/move it away from the stages/entrance. 
 

we asked several stewards where the family camping was and were told it was all family camping, and that a designated area did not exist. The stewards seemed to not know a whole lot haha!

I walked through quiet and thought it looked really busy.

I was camped in general, just past Tangerine Fields, and had 4 of the best night sleeps I’ve ever had. I was cross to come home!

 

On a slight digression did anyone else think security was more evident this year, particularly on Thursday/Friday?

Previous years if anyone asked me about security I’d have said ‘what security?’

I was stopped for drinking from a can in the walled garden on Friday. Not had that happen before

 

 

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First time at Green Man and loved it but there were some quite unnecessary traumas.  The sign on the A40 for live in vehicles turning was clear, but the complete absence of any sign or steward at the actual entrance to the field meant we drove straight past and were then stuck on a single track road with minimal passing places - no fun towing a caravan.  We were saved by an understandably frustrated local woman coming the other way, who made all the cars following her reverse the considerable distance to a junction where we could get past.  We weren't the only people to miss the turn, as she confirmed. Agree with the comments about the compost loos - Glasto gets them right (apart from when the doors fall off!). On the Monday we were all packed up and set to leave by 3pm, went for a last wee and found all the toilets locked up.   Special thanks to the guy who came to jump start our car though, and the steward by the gate who let us use the loo there.

Music was mostly great, sometimes bonkers, and we eventually found places outside Far Out where the sound was good.  Young Fathers sounded great from the benches by the bar, with a good view of the better screen. We did find the sound in the Walled Garden too harsh though.

Found pretty much everybody to be friendly and considerate, lots of those little moments of connection which make a festival special.

We'll definitely be trying for tickets next month - anyone know what time the sale starts on 30th September?

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1 hour ago, Mambonumberfive said:

 

I was stopped for drinking from a can in the walled garden on Friday. Not had that happen before

 

 

Hah there was a security guy at the Walled Garden clearly not getting the festival vibe. I saw him charging around telling confused people not to smoke and constantly in hushed discussion with other security like he was on military manoeuvres.

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2 hours ago, Cherrytree13 said:

Was it people in the campsite causing the noise or the festival itself? I think one of our relatives camped in the quiet camping not realising he was in there, and I can’t imagine him and his crew being at all quiet. Maybe they need to mark it more clearly/move it away from the stages/entrance. 
 

we asked several stewards where the family camping was and were told it was all family camping, and that a designated area did not exist. The stewards seemed to not know a whole lot haha!

We did this in 2019, I'll be honest we did not realise it was quiet camping for a while, if I remember correctly, that year it was a single vertical banner at the other end of the field that told you it was quiet camping.

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1 hour ago, noisenoiseandmorenoise said:

Hah there was a security guy at the Walled Garden clearly not getting the festival vibe. I saw him charging around telling confused people not to smoke and constantly in hushed discussion with other security like he was on military manoeuvres.

Yes that was him! And I saw several similar Mitchell bros type lookalikes Thursday and Friday, gone by Saturday. Maybe the rain got in their headsets and they blew a fuse or something. 

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19 hours ago, Mambonumberfive said:

I walked through quiet and thought it looked really busy.

I was camped in general, just past Tangerine Fields, and had 4 of the best night sleeps I’ve ever had. I was cross to come home!

 

On a slight digression did anyone else think security was more evident this year, particularly on Thursday/Friday?

Previous years if anyone asked me about security I’d have said ‘what security?’

I was stopped for drinking from a can in the walled garden on Friday. Not had that happen before

 

 

According to the festival rules, you are not allowed to bring your own drinks into the arena.

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21 minutes ago, BluesManP said:

According to the festival rules, you are not allowed to bring your own drinks into the arena.

Checks at GM have always been on the light side; it's a condition of the premises licence that they don't allow own drink in but it's nowhere near as enforced as most other festivals. Either way, the security chap stood in the middle of the Walled Garden entrance got a stern talking too from a festival official and was never seen again.

I saw someone get stopped on Thursday for trying to bring a fork through into the arena. God knows what that security guard would have done if he found you could buy a literal axe from the Tools for Self Reliance stand. 

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Green Man 2023

Here goes…

**THURSDAY**

  • If the drive there was pretty painful - 6 hours or so from SE London - then the extent of the pain was equally matched by the relief and joy on arrival. Beautiful weather and back, for the third time, in one of my favourite places on earth (maybe my actual favourite at this point!). We had some first-timers with us this year and I was very excited to see what they thought of the place.
  • Quick change to go for a jog up the “mountain” behind the main stage to check out the views and the wild horses (1hr and a bit up and down - it’s not as far as it looks). Then a swift shower on site (no queue on a Thursday!) and headed in for a few drinks in The Courtyard with friends before Rouge Jones.

Rogue Jones - decent fun, and lovely weather. Felt so special to be back. Is there a more wonderful place in the world than The Walled Garden on a sunny evening? Heaven on earth! Music was good, but not really my thing for the most part but they do have a few songs I like. 6.5/10

Lost Map - headed up to Far Out for Johnny P’s new band with his label mates. Not as good as I had hoped for unfortunately. The last song was great (the single that’s been released) but the other songs weren’t nearly as a good. 5/10

Spiritualised - better than I expected and some parts were really amazing (second half was a bit slow though). She Kissed me was so good. A friend even turned to me after that song and expressed some form of amazement (can’t remember the exact quote!) So Long You Pretty Thing and Shine A Light were also magical. 8/10

  • Had some great Thai food to the right of End Up bar before Spz. I also had a great aubergine filled Naan from the place near Goan Fish Curry/Record Store on the way “home” (💚) after a few hours in RTT and CWs following Spz’s set.

***FRIDAY***

  • Typical morning routine of: getting in the shower queue and debating whether it is worth it > showering and thinking it definitely is > heading to Frank’s to fill up water with their amazingly pristine water (maybe just placebo) > saying hello to the wonderfully cheerful security chap by the stairs > walking around site with a coffee and some breakfast taking it all in before it starts to get busier.
  • Had a great shakshuka breakfast as well from the tent near The Courtyard. Worth it even just for those beanbags in there! Music wise I was busy (as I was each day!), although I had less “must sees” in comparison to Saturday and Sunday.

Speilman - seems like a great guy but the music wasn’t particularly amazing or anything. He was pretty funny though so was fun to watch. 6/10

Eve Appleton Band - don’t really remember all that much from this which suggests I wasn’t really into it. 5/10

Ziyad Al Shamman - he’s a good performer and fun to watch but I don’t really get much out of live music that just seems to largely be somebody pressing play on something. 6/10

Juni Habel - first act on Friday I was particularly keen for and was very lovely. The rain was falling very imperceptibly at this stage and was so light it was almost snow like. It gave the show this very magical feel to it. I love the new album so was great to hear those songs performed. 7.5/10

Mega Bog - off to the Far Out for another act whose album this year I really like. This set took a while to get going but was brilliant by the end. 7.5/10

Dur Dur Band - Great fun in the rain, which was starting to get heavier by this stage. Got the crowd dancing despite this though! Funny to look back at our photos of this set as we are all laden in our waterproofs - feels weird to see after Saturday and Sunday’s gorgeous weather. 7/10

Jockstrap - Headed into FO while the rain became stronger and stronger for one of my favourite bands who I still hadn’t managed to see yet. Not quite enough for an hour’s worth of back to back bangers yet but there were some fantastic moments during this set. Really enjoyed most of it but it fell a bit flat with the crowd in some parts. Ending in particular, however, was amazing with Concrete Over Water, Greatest Hits, Glasgow and 50/50. Georgia throwing in Nikki Manaj’s verse on Monster (Kanye) as well during one of their songs (I forget which one) was brilliant! In a few years they could be headlining GM/EOTR I think, they had a big crowd. 8/10

Brief respite with some friends in their tent to wait out the worst of the rain…

Squid - frustrating as usual with Squid for me as they can be really good and also really dull, fluctuating multiple times between the two during a set. I get that they like to ebb and flow the set tempo wise but seems way too much down time given the number of great songs they have. When it was good it was great. 7.5/10

Slowdive - Possibly my favourite band that I hadn’t seen before. Was very excited and definitely met my expectations. It sounded brilliant (though could have been even louder if I’m being picky) and Allison into When The Sun Hits into Golden Hair was astonishingly good. I could have listened to an extended Golden Hair outro that went on for hours, simply sublime. Turned to my friend after it ended and he just had his hands on his head muttering about it being the best thing he’s ever witnessed. Very slightly disappointed not to get a bit longer set as they cut Sleep which would have made it perfect - but yeah, loved it. 9/10

Daniel Avery - sound wasn’t good for this so was disappointed, pretty quiet. 5/10

  • Food wise, I recall having a great Mac and Cheese while half watching Melin Meyln from the top of the hill who had a huge crowd but I don’t get them at all. I think I might have forgotten to eat for the rest of the day as can’t remember any other food that day. Thankfully missed most of the rain as was mainly in the Far Out tent, and then the rain I think had stopped after Slowdive.
  • Spent a few hours with friends in CWs to see out the night. It ended up being a fairly late one as I only got to bed around 4.30 ish…

***SATURDAY***

  • After very little sleep, maybe an hour or two, the typical morning routine kicked in. Had one of the Hot Patatoes’ breakfast bonanzas as well, which was incredible. Hash browns, beans, cheddar, crispy kale etc. Music wise, I knew this was going to be a busy day. Ended up doing 49,000 steps, although this did include a lot of steps dancing in CWs in the early hours of Saturday morning

Rozi Plain (RTT) - a lovely relaxing start to the day with a short and sweet “secret” set. Didn’t watch her full set on Friday as I was at Slowdive but am sure it was good.

deathcrash - About as good a live music experience as I could possibly expect to experience. So emotional and powerful. Sound was SO good for this (those drums!!!), and crowd were perfectly quiet and receptive. I had my eyes closed for most of the set just letting all the emotions wash over me and was basically a trembling wreck by the end. Can’t wait to see them later this year again at Fabric. Their GM set was a cut above last year’s already very good performance on the Rising stage. I turned to two friends at the end of the set who both appeared to have tears in their eyes 💚 10/10

Julie Byrne - In my top 5 albums of the year and a very beautiful performance. The only reason I’m not ranking this slightly higher is because it was very hot and my hangover began to kick in quite viscerally during the last couple of songs haha! 8/10

Etran de l’air - After 20 minutes or so in the shade, things were looking promising again and was back out in the sun for this extremely entertaining set. Bumped into an old friend who I hadn’t seen in 7/8 years and we watched them play together, which was lovely. The only negative is that the style of music can get quite repetitive and the songs themselves are pretty long so can get somewhat tedious occasionally, though I expect this in part due to my ears being more used to Western music. 7.5/10

Anna B Savage - another favourite of mine and one of my favourite 2023 albums. First time seeing her and really enjoyed it. Was hoping to hear “One” off her debut, which is one of my favourite songs of the decade so that was a slight shame but everything was great anyway. 8/10

Obongjayar - had lots of fun at this set and we had the perfect early evening sunlight which made it extra special. Not 100% taken by the music but he is a great performer. 7/10

Lankum - again, incredible evening sunshine for this set. My 3rd favourite album of the year and was going in to this with very high hopes but slight reservations about the slot on the Main Stage rather than in the tent or even headlining Walled Garden. I thought it was fantastic. Thought it was amazing how big a slot they had given how weird/experimental they were! The only slight downside was that a couple of ladies had brought 3 or 4 young children to the very front right next to me and were quite distracting/chatty in parts. Apparently I was on the screens for a lot of this set with my eyes closed just smiling and swaying about…little embarrassing! 8.5/10

Uh - some of this was very up my street. Lots of interesting acid/squelchy beats that appeared to be improvised live with the singer adding very ethereal and hard hitting vocals over the top. Beginning and ending of the set was fantastic. 7.5/10

The Walkmen - Just caught 20 mins of this and saw In the New Year, The Rat and Juveniles which all sounded great. Crowd were great even where I was which was pretty far back. Left early though as not that into their stuff and wanted to see WFYE. Crowd were very bemused about his helicopter/Van Morrison story which seemed to be unnecessarily long with no real point to it haha - I guess it was just to say Van Morrison didn’t really get the vibe of the place?

Water from your eyes - this was mainly as I expected music wise but singer was definitely more engaged with the crowd than I thought they’d be and seemed thrilled to be there, so that made it even more entertaining as I had wrongly assumed they would be a bit too cool. Great experimental band imo and very fun to watch. 8/10

Mandy Indiana - great fun to watch. Lots of hopping over the barrier to interact with the crowd. Music was great as well. 7.5/10

Clipping - unbelievably excited for this and when the piano keys started for Nothing is Safe and Daveed walked on as his verse started I completely lost it! Was amazing start to finish, and there was a great crowd who were all up for it. SO much fun and I enjoyed seeing so many amazed faces when Daveed would do one of his insanely fast and long verses. Nothing is Safe, Check The Lock, Wriggle, Enlacing, Body & Blood and Story 2 were my highlights. 9.5/10

Confidence Man - this went exactly as I expected really which was three good songs (on and on, now u do, holiday) but with a bad crowd that significantly impacted my experience. In particular, four women next to me wouldn’t stop incessantly chatting to one another and occasionally screaming “This is amazing”! I mean they were barely watching it! Costume changes were also a strange move for me as they probably spent as much time off stage as they did on stage. Don’t really get them at all. Highlight was that it was then my birthday so had a nice moment with my group of friends 💚 5/10

  • Had some very good nachos from the vegetarian Mexican place at the top of the Mountain Stage during Obongjayar. Got some hash browns at Hot Potatoes to keep me going through the joys (sarcasm) of the CW DJs until 4 am ish again 😉

***SUNDAY***

  • Typical morning routine again…plus a friend had bought me Julie Byrne’s vinyl for my birthday which was a lovely surprise. Also bought some GM merch as a present to myself! As with Saturday, this was to be another busy day music wise and ended up being another 49,000 steps approximately.
  • Feet were beginning to ache by this stage and the creeping sense of dread due to it being Sunday was starting to set in. Tried to push back the fear with some vegan sushi from the Walled Garden, which was fantastic.

Thus Love (RTT) - Went along to the early RTT set at 11.15 again. Not massively familiar with Thus Love but do really like a couple songs and really enjoy the guitar tone the lead vocalist and guitarist has. Another good start to the day.

Kanda Bongo Man - very pleasantly surprised by this as thought it could be a bit naff based on some reviews I had seen. Weather was fantastic and crowd was very into it. It was quite incredible to witness everyone’s energy levels despite it being the last day. The power of good music, ey? The main chap (I think his name is actually Bongo Kanda) was less present/active but the rest of the band were brilliant. 8/10

Hyll - Kinda like a Welsh version of Pavement/Modest Mouse but quiet considerably less good. 5/10

Jake Xerxes Fussell - Group of us went up to the top of the hill in the blazing sunshine to lie down and watch this set. Was incredibly relaxing and his voice was wonderful. I could have stayed there all day had it not been for all the over great acts to come. 7.5/10

julie - this band could be brilliant in the future, ones to watch for sure. Love their released music as i’m big into that sort of Shoegaze/indie rock sound, but didn’t have a brilliant live show imo. Drummer was very good I thought. 7/10

Nuha Ruby Ra - wasn’t into this one at all I’m afraid, although I was seriously flagging at this point. Went to get one of those Bhaji wraps from the back of the Walled Garden, pretty good!! 5/10

Butch Kassidy (RTT) - was excited for this as had wanted to see them on Friday but they clashed with Jockstrap (i think). Went along at the scheduled slot but then they proceeded to soundcheck for at least 20 minutes. I became unreasonably pissed off about this but stayed for one song, which was alright. Hope to see them again at one of their own shows!

Thus Love - went along to the first half of this before Gilla Band. Very nice again - will definitely be listening to more of their stuff.

Gilla Band - GB were the beginning of an insane b5b of acts I love all in the FO, starting with them and ending with James Holden. They were very good as expected but wanted them to be a touch more incendiary, probably a sound issue. Loved Bin Liner Fashion and Bodies in particular though, the latter was particularly raucous. 7.5/10

Arushi Jain - dashed down to Rising out of interest to see what the Last Dinner Party Crowd was like (it was big, obvs), then I caught about 15/20 mins of Arushi Jain in the glorious sunshine with one of those amazing Choc Shop brownies. She sounded great and wanted to stay for more but had to get back to the FO…

Les Savy Fav - knew what I was getting in for as had seen them before 12 years ago…but still…it was nonetheless fairly shocking to see Tim in his brightly coloured feather outfit rush out into the crowd and run around the Far Out tent sliding in mud, stealing people’s clothes, drinking people’s drinks, cleaning his hands in people’s drinks, carrying children on his shoulders etc etc. It was very fun but at times I kinda wanted more focus on the music, which was great when Tim and the band played properly together. Some of his antics also seemed a bit over the line as well so felt a bit uncomfortable at points. Anyway, it was still brilliant and unique performance wise. 8.5/10

Sudan Archives - surpassed my very high expectations. Fantastic. Had hoped to hear Confessions as that’s one of my favourite songs of the last few years but that’s a minor complaint. She’s an unbelievably good performer and the atmosphere in the tent was brilliant. 9/10

Young Fathers - saw them earlier this year but this was far more enjoyable for me. The last 30 minutes of this set from Geronimo onwards couldn’t have been better. They create a wonderfully intense atmosphere and it’s a pleasure to watch them. Would have been even better if they decided to play Only God Knows. I’m not 100% into all of their music so the fast half of their set isn’t my sort of thing occasionally - hence the rating not being even higher. At times I also think they are so intent on it being an interesting live performance that it comes across a bit try hard…I dunno? Surely future headliners anyway?? 8.5/10

  • Then it was time for the beautiful and emotional burning of the Green Man and firework display. It’s at this point where it becomes very apparent that your time is almost up and while it’s sad, I am also very aware of how lucky we all are to spend time with friends in such a wonderful place.

James Holden - Following the emotional release of the burning and fireworks, I headed off to James Holden. I was extremely tired by this point and had become very cold as had forgotten to bring a jumper and hadn’t had time to go back for one. I came very close to just going back to my tent but when I saw James’ set up with the two other musicians I knew it was going to be worth sticking around for. I love James’ music and it was a lot better than expected live with the live percussion and saxophone. Due to my exhaustion, cold and frightfully painful feet, it also became this weird mental game I had with myself about transcending my mental state which seemed to go hand in hand with the music and James’ idea of it being some 4D underwater rave. I was trying meditative techniques of acknowledging the physical pain I was in without fighting it and trying to focus intently on the sensation and move it around my body…it sort of worked I think! The music was fantastic as well, ha! 7.5/10

Deptford Northern Soul Club - I came so close to calling it a night after James Holden but knew my group of friends were at DNSC. I’ve seen this set a few times now so I was thinking do I really need to bother with this…but I’m so glad I did. A kind friend gave me her jumper (she said she didn’t need it I wasn’t being a dick!) and this brought me back to life, and this ended up being a brilliant end to a fantastic festival. In particular, I found it very special not only to have that one last fun moment with friends but also to watch different groups of friends hugging and saying their goodbyes as the set draws to a close. Wonderful. 7.5/10

***EPILOGUE***

  • While trudging back to the car carrying our gear and aptly singing Lankum’s Go Dig My Grave, I was thinking about how I really think Green Man is my favourite place on earth. It might seem hyperbolic and I do try and cast a critical eye on it (it’s not without fault of course), but I do truly believe it’s a very special place and a festival I hope to return to for many years to come. Diolch, GM 💚

And breathe…

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Great review.  Thanks.  GM is now firmly established as my favourite festival.  Only problem is that I'll be away on holiday when next year's tickets go on sale.  Similarly two others in our gang of four will also be away and the last member of our group will have to re-arrange his work shifts to go for tickets. Fingers crossed!

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36 minutes ago, grumpyhack said:

Great review.  Thanks.  GM is now firmly established as my favourite festival.  Only problem is that I'll be away on holiday when next year's tickets go on sale.  Similarly two others in our gang of four will also be away and the last member of our group will have to re-arrange his work shifts to go for tickets. Fingers crossed!

There were loads available to Fanticks and Twickets from mid July onwards this year so if you fail you will be able to pick them up late on with ease.

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A week on now and still in a bit of withdrawal so will share my favourite moment which hasn't come up yet.

The otherworldly Josephine Foster at the Walled Garden was one of my favourite shows. I've seen her many times and this was one of the best, she seemed to be really enjoying the reaction after an apparently bad experience previously at the festival.

Foster doesn't seem to live in this world. I often wonder how she does basic things like go through airport customs. This thought was put perfectly to my partner by a man next to us who leaned over at one point and said you can't imagine her serving you a sausage roll at Gregg's, can you?

Fair to say that has become an instant meme in these parts.

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17 hours ago, noisenoiseandmorenoise said:

A week on now and still in a bit of withdrawal so will share my favourite moment which hasn't come up yet.

The otherworldly Josephine Foster at the Walled Garden was one of my favourite shows. I've seen her many times and this was one of the best, she seemed to be really enjoying the reaction after an apparently bad experience previously at the festival.

Foster doesn't seem to live in this world. I often wonder how she does basic things like go through airport customs. This thought was put perfectly to my partner by a man next to us who leaned over at one point and said you can't imagine her serving you a sausage roll at Gregg's, can you?

Fair to say that has become an instant meme in these parts.

Thanks for the review of JF, I was gutted to miss her. Based on the above I think I’ll try and catch her on tour. I share your withdrawal pain! 

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On 8/24/2023 at 12:55 PM, lessthanwill1 said:

Detailed diary style review from me if you can be bothered to read.  Sorry, it’s quite long!

TLDR: I had a great time 😉 


 

Green Man 2023 Diary.pdfUnavailable

Great review, but you're wrong about Melyn Melin 😉 

First I'd seen them and was easily the most fun set of the weekend!

 

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The compost bogs were pretty grim, let's be real. I've been going to multiple UK camping festivals every summer since 2009 and these were some of the worst I can remember. Andy's loos were pretty great, kept nice and clean and well stocked. An open mountain of human poo inching ever closer, three steep mud caked steps, a complete gamble as to whether there'll be any toilet roll, cup for the sawdust, or hand sanitiser, pitch black in the dark, is not cool.

The "womxn's" urinals were alright for avoiding queues and having to touch anything, and I was thankful for them at the times when a band had finished and I was bursting, but they could do with a lot of improvement. Higher walls for privacy, and some way of indicating that there's a person in there are seriously needed. Having to roll my tights up while still squatting was extremely difficult, plus the sensation that somebody could be looking right down on you when the person beside stands up is really unnerving, and the first time I used them somebody walked in on me because you can't really tell if somebody's squatting in one of them unless you're tall enough to see the head poking above the wall. After that I kept my hand poking around the corner so somebody would see that before they walked in on me.

And yeah call them women's urinals or squat urinals, just something other than "womxn's", that word isn't inclusive and has a spotty history.

Other than the bogs, lovely place, I'll be back some time. I think I might want to steward again next time. We'll see in a couple of years. Got Eras tour tickets for next year, so please don't book Sufjan.

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On 8/26/2023 at 10:50 PM, czuk said:

Just watching the highlights on S4C, tbh we didn't hear much Welsh spoken over the weekend, wondering what proportion of attendees are Welsh speakers.

I think that would quite a small percentage 5% or less. I’m Welsh but don’t speak Welsh and the majority of accents I heard were either English, Cardiff, Newport or Valleys.

I did keep bumping into Huw Stephens and his kids and last year was chatting with Stephen Jones the ex-Wales outside half on a similar subject. So there’s a few Welsh speakers.

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Hello! It was our first Green Man and we absolutely loved it! Definitely returning! 

We live in Spain so it really helps to book pre-erected accommodation... we stayed in Tangerine Fields this year and it was really good... however if we could stay longer we would. Does anyone know of anything pre-erected in Settlement please?

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