When will this shit end?

[kalifire]

There were 11 new cases in a small pocket of Melbourne announced today, so now all 6,681,000 residents of the entire state, across a land mass of 141,327 miles/sq., are facing mandatory requirements to wear masks indoors everywhere at all times. 😕

[Toilet Duck]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I thought his doctorate was in Nutrition?

I was thinking more about him using the Doctor title when he didn't finish medical school. But fair point!

I still find him annoying though. The 'god pray for the UK schoolchildren' tweet when reopened schools was horrific.

He is annoying! And he does have a doctorate in nutrition from Harvard as well (which is a real thing, I know loads of people that studied human nutrition and work as clinical dieticians, very important in cancer rehab amongst a bunch of other things) and yes, he dropped out of med school to take up a faculty position at Harvard (but he already had his doctorate before that). He's still annoying though. 

[Crazyfool01]

8 minutes ago, kalifire said:

There were 11 new cases in a small pocket of Melbourne announced today, so now all 6,681,000 residents of the entire state, across a land mass of 141,327 miles/sq., are facing mandatory requirements to wear masks indoors everywhere at all times. 😕

does any mask exemption exist in Australia ? or are we world leading here ? 

[Guest]

 

[Copperface]

Boom Village festival cancelled amid rising cases

 

Boom Village was going to be held on the same site as the already-cancelled Boomtown Boom Village was going to be held on the same site as the already-cancelled Boomtown

A scaled-down version of the Boomtown music festival has been cancelled because of escalating cases of Covid, the event's organisers have said.

Boom Village was due to be hosted at the Matterley Estate, near Winchester, between 11 and 15 August.

It was designed to be a smaller event than the usual Boomtown festival, which had already been cancelled.

Organisers say they appreciate the decision might seem confusing given the imminent lifting of Covid restrictions.

A statement on the Boomtown website says the risk of widespread illness and self-isolation would result in them not having enough people to safely deliver the event.

"The core decision is due to the escalating cases of Covid-19 across the country," it adds.

Ticket holders have been promised refunds and the full Boomtown festival is expected to return in 2022.

Read more here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57832179?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=60eefa102a60096481ab4e35%26Boom Village festival cancelled amid rising cases%262021-07-14T15%3A28%3A48.625Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:8aff2568-3525-4da6-947b-59194be0ed77&pinned_post_asset_id=60eefa102a60096481ab4e35&pinned_post_type=share

Edited July 14, 2021 by Copperface

[Guest]

Vaccination update:

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Edited July 14, 2021 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

35 minutes ago, kalifire said:

There were 11 new cases in a small pocket of Melbourne announced today, so now all 6,681,000 residents of the entire state, across a land mass of 141,327 miles/sq., are facing mandatory requirements to wear masks indoors everywhere at all times. 😕

the contrast to what is happening here is kind of mad.

[steviewevie]

34 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

He is annoying! And he does have a doctorate in nutrition from Harvard as well (which is a real thing, I know loads of people that studied human nutrition and work as clinical dieticians, very important in cancer rehab amongst a bunch of other things) and yes, he dropped out of med school to take up a faculty position at Harvard (but he already had his doctorate before that). He's still annoying though. 

yeah, a lot of scientists seem to find him annoying. But, didn't he send out a warning tweet to the world about this virus or something or other.

Anyway, the main reason I posted it was the NL festival thing.

[Pinhead]

26 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Boom Village festival cancelled amid rising cases

 

Boom Village was going to be held on the same site as the already-cancelled Boomtown Boom Village was going to be held on the same site as the already-cancelled Boomtown

A scaled-down version of the Boomtown music festival has been cancelled because of escalating cases of Covid, the event's organisers have said.

Boom Village was due to be hosted at the Matterley Estate, near Winchester, between 11 and 15 August.

It was designed to be a smaller event than the usual Boomtown festival, which had already been cancelled.

Organisers say they appreciate the decision might seem confusing given the imminent lifting of Covid restrictions.

A statement on the Boomtown website says the risk of widespread illness and self-isolation would result in them not having enough people to safely deliver the event.

"The core decision is due to the escalating cases of Covid-19 across the country," it adds.

Ticket holders have been promised refunds and the full Boomtown festival is expected to return in 2022.

Read more here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57832179?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=60eefa102a60096481ab4e35%26Boom Village festival cancelled amid rising cases%262021-07-14T15%3A28%3A48.625Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:8aff2568-3525-4da6-947b-59194be0ed77&pinned_post_asset_id=60eefa102a60096481ab4e35&pinned_post_type=share

Yeah my mate has just pinged me about this as he was due to be stewarding that one. They're trying to hold onto £7 of his deposit too...

[steviewevie]

 

[Toilet Duck]

Just now, steviewevie said:

yeah, a lot of scientists seem to find him annoying. But, didn't he send out a warning tweet to the world about this virus or something or other.

Anyway, the main reason I posted it was the NL festival thing.

I think he just has a bit of smugness about him that grates a bit! Doesn't mean he's always wrong (nor does getting something correct at one point mean he's always right). It's still a highly fluid situation, I change my mind on various things as the data accrues (which is pretty normal) and I've gotten as much wrong as I have right in my assessment of things. The NL festival does raise a bunch of questions (if testing is used, should it be immediately prior to entry rather than in the 48-72h prior?, if everyone is vaccinated, does it matter if we get cases? (eventually, probably not), do we need antibody tests for recovered individuals to see if they are actually still "immune"?)...I think a lot of that would be overkill and probably not feasible, and pushing on to get as many fully jabbed as possible in as short a time as we can manage is the main route back to congregating in large numbers as safely as we can.  

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Toilet Duck said:

I think he just has a bit of smugness about him that grates a bit! Doesn't mean he's always wrong (nor does getting something correct at one point mean he's always right). It's still a highly fluid situation, I change my mind on various things as the data accrues (which is pretty normal) and I've gotten as much wrong as I have right in my assessment of things. The NL festival does raise a bunch of questions (if testing is used, should it be immediately prior to entry rather than in the 48-72h prior?, if everyone is vaccinated, does it matter if we get cases? (eventually, probably not), do we need antibody tests for recovered individuals to see if they are actually still "immune"?)...I think a lot of that would be overkill and probably not feasible, and pushing on to get as many fully jabbed as possible in as short a time as we can manage is the main route back to congregating in large numbers as safely as we can.  

yeah, maybe we're going through a little period of chaos and uncertainty before we enter a brave new world.

[jannybruck]

The mask thing is already turning into a fucking mess. Having different requirements region-by-region and mode-of-transport is just going to cause even more friction and drop usage everywhere as people get confused about what's what.

I understand why local politicians are pushing for it, but ultimately I can't see it having any impact at all on the people that have either already dropped them or are planning to.

[steviewevie]

Not covid but we were talking about the challenge we face dealing with global warming earlier, and to me this feels very significant...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/14/amazon-rainforest-now-emitting-more-co2-than-it-absorbs

[Pinhead]

1 hour ago, incident said:

Given that whenever this does get discussed on here, those changes can often be summed up as "get rid of the area I don't personally care about in order to provide more budget/space to the areas I do" - I tend to think that anyone who does want significant change has largely missed the reason the festival works so well - that it's got something for nearly everyone.

Ageed, though even without SE Corner, for example, reckon it would still sell out in half an hour such is the strength of its brand and history and line up.

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

 

 

[FloorFiller]

2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

They could always just get the vaccine...  Seriously don't get the fear...  The vaccines work.

‘But we don’t know the long term effects!!!! I’m not being part of your science experiment!!!! Bill Gates!!!!’

[steviewevie]

I expect govt wished they had kept masks mandatory on public transport until this wave passed and a higher percentage fully vaccinated, but Harper and his crg liberty crew would have got upset, so we are where we are, confusion. I guess we're always going to go through some pain as we "learn to live with it", but if cases get real high and deaths get above 100/day there could be a bit of a backlash.

[Guest]

It's a perfect storm really after the Euros Final on Sunday then a week later full relaxation of restrictions allowing that virus to be passed around further. I do wonder if they regret stating the last step would be a full relaxation?

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I expect govt wished they had kept masks mandatory on public transport until this wave passed and a higher percentage fully vaccinated, but Harper and his crg liberty crew would have got upset, so we are where we are, confusion. I guess we're always going to go through some pain as we "learn to live with it", but if cases get real high and deaths get above 100/day there could be a bit of a backlash.

At what point do we think that the daily death rate becomes "significant" again? Is that data even driving decisions anymore? Feels dirty even saying it when over 300 people have died so far this month

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

It's a perfect storm really after the Euros Final on Sunday then a week later full relaxation of restrictions allowing that virus to be passed around further. I do wonder if they regret stating the last step would be a full relaxation?

If they don’t now, they’re going to in a couple of months (if that) when it becomes incredibly clear that we’re once again in the shit.

[Guest]

Just now, FloorFiller said:

If they don’t now, they’re going to in a couple of months (if that) when it becomes incredibly clear that we’re once again in the shit.

Maybe they regret going so full on then and getting rid of baseline protections (WFH, masks etc) at least?

[efcfanwirral]

19 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

They could always just get the vaccine...  Seriously don't get the fear...  The vaccines work.

To be fair a lot of older people have taken the "take the vaccine to protect your loved ones" messages aimed at young people as "we're not safe until they've been vaccinated" - and that's exactly how it's sounded and been pushed so can't blame them really. I genuinely don't think anyone is trying to keep measures to protect those who refuse it, but plenty who've had two don't feel safe until everyone has. 

I've had one and don't expect any protections at all, except perhaps not being allowed to do some things til I've had the second