Balls Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 7 hours ago, The Martini Police said: Good research, thank you. So that's only one in the last 21 Pyramid days with an all male line up (if we count this with Metronomy, even though the reverse possibly wouldn't) despite an overwhelming majority of musicians being male. If we start thinking about every one of 7 acts on one day coming from a small minority (roughly, will vary with mixed groups) of the pool, the odds of it happening without it being forced are absolutely huge. Let's not force it and patronise women (many of whom deserve that stage on merit) in the process, let's ensure there is equality of opportunity to get into music. Then, the best women will rise (and have risen) to the top in exactly the same way males do, it's not their gender that determines whether they do or not. Of course, if there’s evidence of discrimination then that absolutely should be called out but imbalance on line-ups isn’t evidence of it. oh my god you are so boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Martini Police Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Balls said: oh my god you are so boring Hahaha. Well, I was certainly bored, at least. Doesn’t make it any less true though I’m afraid, as lovely as it would be if the music industry was 50/50 and these calls were justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Rita Ora has had her tonsils out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balls Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, The Martini Police said: Hahaha. Well, I was certainly bored, at least. Doesn’t make it any less true though I’m afraid, as lovely as it would be if the music industry was 50/50 and these calls were justified. This weird idea that music festivals are somehow outside the industry and can only react to it. Festivals ARE the music industry. They actually do have a say in who makes it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 12:50 AM, chazwwe said: Oh okay, so because there's a rumour going around that it might happen and a rumour going around saying it WONT happen, thats them making it into a gimmick and making a point regarding to it? So a festival can never have a day start to finish that is a womans line up because thats going to be a 'gimmick'. Got ya. If they had just done it rather than make a big point before about female bookings and the acts not being around then it wouldn't be as as big a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazwwe Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, thewayiam said: If they had just done it rather than make a big point before about female bookings and the acts not being around then it wouldn't be as as big a thing. I mean, all festivals are now talking about it. Even Reading and Leeds. Emily got asked about it in every interview for months. How else can they do it, they either don't do it out of reason because they'll get backlash, or they just say fuck it and they do it. I don't think it'll happen as a heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Ayrshire Chris said: Rita Ora has had her tonsils out Will it keep her from singing for the next 140 days? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfAnIdiot Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 51 minutes ago, chazwwe said: I mean, all festivals are now talking about it. Even Reading and Leeds. Emily got asked about it in every interview for months. How else can they do it, they either don't do it out of reason because they'll get backlash, or they just say fuck it and they do it. I don't think it'll happen as a heads up. And isn't that a result! The music industry is riddled with sexism. Female acts are suppressed and abused by dicks in positions of power. Its a real shit-fest if you care to open your eyes. Well done Emily for using your position to make a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazwwe Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said: And isn't that a result! The music industry is riddled with sexism. Female acts are suppressed and abused by dicks in positions of power. Its a real shit-fest if you care to open your eyes. Well done Emily for using your position to make a difference. Oh no, I'm on the side that its a good thing, this was in a reply to 'they should of done it without talking about it, now because they've spoken about it its a gimmick' comment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 11:42 AM, chazwwe said: I mean, all festivals are now talking about it. Even Reading and Leeds. Emily got asked about it in every interview for months. How else can they do it, they either don't do it out of reason because they'll get backlash, or they just say fuck it and they do it. I don't think it'll happen as a heads up. She didn't get asked about a whole day of female acts though did she?, may have got asked about female acts playing etc. What I'm saying is don't turn something into something else that doesn't need to be done just to prove a point. But that's me done on that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazwozza Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Speaking for myself, I'd be blown away if they could get Joni Mitchell playing at the festival... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padgey Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Could Suzanne Vega be another female making an appearance? Her being the first female to headline the festival (yes I'm at that part of the book) and there being some surprises suggested by EE, surely this would be a nod to the last 50 years whilst recognising female artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Padgey said: Could Suzanne Vega be another female making an appearance? Her being the first female to headline the festival (yes I'm at that part of the book) and there being some surprises suggested by EE, surely this would be a nod to the last 50 years whilst recognising female artists. She was great when I saw her at BDs, and that's from someone who only knew three of her songs. Great acoustic set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Padgey said: Could Suzanne Vega be another female making an appearance? Her being the first female to headline the festival (yes I'm at that part of the book) and there being some surprises suggested by EE, surely this would be a nod to the last 50 years whilst recognising female artists. she's quite a regular anyway. It's possible that she'd be on the bill without it being anything about the 50th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.M.V Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Chazwozza said: Speaking for myself, I'd be blown away if they could get Joni Mitchell playing at the festival... Oh yes! 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisp1986 Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 hours ago, H.M.V said: Oh yes! 😍 Does she still have the voice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Noone knows. Not performed or released any music for about 15 years and has since had a serious brain aneurysm. i.e. There's more chance of Kate Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Noone knows. Not performed or released any music for about 15 years and has since had a serious brain aneurysm. i.e. There's more chance of Kate Bush. Maybe just mark her as an R for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Maybe just mark her as an R for now... SR - she's definitely got space in her touring calendar for those dates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Quark said: SR - she's definitely got space in her touring calendar for those dates Joni Mitchell - TBC Mark it Neil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 With Bobby Gentry on beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) On 2/15/2020 at 4:54 PM, Ayrshire Chris said: Rita Ora has had her tonsils out And there'll be another one of those, same time tomorrow... Edited February 18, 2020 by maelzoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, maelzoid said: And there'll be another one of those, same time tomorrow... Ok today’s fact removal of tonsils can increase vocal resonance and in fact improve the singing voice and range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 an article you might find interesting... https://mailchi.mp/9b3fb2ae9c3c/award-ceremonies-and-festival-line-ups-the-pipeline-problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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